From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 18:34:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D5C16A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:34:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860AF43D46 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j18IYtGf005645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:34:56 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j18IYtoS005643; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:34:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:34:55 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: daniel Message-ID: <20050208183455.GH8619@alzatex.com> References: <200502072107.38331.me@danielquinn.org> <20050207222811.U24265@frambozen.monochrome.org> <200502072252.53881.danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200502072252.53881.danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cracked out floppy install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:34:58 -0000 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:52:53PM -0500, daniel wrote: > On February 7, 2005 10:40 pm, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, daniel wrote: > > > i've been trying to install freebsd-5.3RELEASE on this old computer on > > > and off for days now. i downloaded the floppies, watched the thing > > > boot and each and every time, it'll get to the little beastie prompt > > > where it counts down and is *supposed* to run sysinst but instead, it > > > just reboots! > > > > That's just peculiar. Maybe you need more RAM? Couldn't hurt, anyway. > > The 16M you cite below seems a bit meager. > > well the handbook says freebsd5 has a minimum requirement of 8mb, so 16 should > be fine. but even if it weren't, you'd think there'd be some form of useful > error message instead of just rebooting. it just makes no sense. > > > I've found that *many* - maybe even most - floppies are bad out of the > > box. I buy the 25- or 50-pack, and churn through until I find two good > > ones. Sometimes it takes a while. > > how can i tell what makes a good one then? i just can't go through 50 disks > hoping to get one right. i haven't received any errors, so i'm working > under the assumption that they work. Do a diff: diff /dev/fd0 myfloppy.img If it doesn't complain then it's probably good. Also, if you use something like: dd if=myfloppy.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k to make the floppy image then you should get 1+0 records in 1+0 records out with no errors if the floppies good. I also have a not of trouble finding good floppies to boot from. Just keep trying over and over. If both dd and diff succeed then it's probably something else that's the matter. I think sometimes floppy drives can be slightly out of adjustment of each other so one drive may have trouble reading the contents of a floppy made on a different drive so I try to use the same computer when I can to man the floppy and boot from it. > > > Other than the RAM, this should be fine as long as you don't plan on > > storing much data. I'd use this machine as a home gateway/firewall/NAT > > box. > > the plan at the moment is experimentation and maybe dns for one domain or > something. i just need it to install first and guessing with 50 floppies > seems a bit nuts. > > -- > what the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. > - nikita khrushchev > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C