From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:37:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBEF16A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:37:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C472543D5A; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:37:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT7ejAL099782; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:40:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AAD1CD.5080606@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:37:49 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <26165.1101713648@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <26165.1101713648@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: David Xu cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:37:22 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: > > >>For the past 1+ years I've recieved nothing but complaints from >>developers who have told me that the beastie menu was silly, >>unprofessional, annoying, and/or confusing. > > > Since nanobsd commit probably was the straw that broke the back of > the camel: > > The reason why I disable the beastie menu in some of my nanobsd > builds are that a couple of those systems sit with a 2400bps GSM > phone as console connection. > > I'm absolutely certain that I am not the person to judge if the > beastie menu is a good thing or not in general, and whatever happens > in nanobsd should not be taken as indicative of anything related > to user-friendlyness as most nanobsd boxes have no on-line users. > It actually had nothing to do with nanobsd. It has everything to do with many months of conversations with many people. Scott