From owner-cvs-all Thu Nov 21 5:36: 9 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD137B401; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FE943E3B; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (iwa@tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6/tasogare/smtpfeed 1.14) with ESMTP/inet id gALDZwi79277; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:35:58 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:35:45 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20021121.223545.26269929.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> To: nate@root.org Cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/5.0R todo.sgml From: Mitsuru IWASAKI In-Reply-To: References: <20021120151222.GA24369@tara.freenix.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Ollivier Robert wrote: > > According to Alfred Perlstein: > > > kernel: witness and invariants > > > userland: malloc > > > > > > any others? > > > > Working ACPI ? (although it may be too hard to do fro 5.0-R). Far too many > > machines have issues with ACPI :-( > > Or we should disable it by default for GENERIC. Remember how long apm was > disabled by default? Actually, I think it still is. Every machine I have > has acpi disabled because of stability issues. Personally, I don't mind for disabling acpi by default for new 5-stable branch, also believe nobody complain about that now. We already learn that there are too many buggy ACPI BIOS implementation for non-Windows OSes, you have to fix them to use it on FreeBSD, but I don't think many people can do this. If your ACPI BIOS check OS type (try; acpidump | grep _OS_), you might need to do something. The black list feature (for non-Windows) might be good idea for avoiding confusion. For 6-current branch, I think we'd better to remain it enabled to make our ACPI system stable. No efforts makes no progress. I think we need more ACPI developers. Most of initial members became busy for their jobs in real world as far as I know. # It doesn't mean that I am very free :-) We need new blood. Anyone? In general, ACPI system is working very stable for some machines which is hacked (including ACPI BIOS) and tested well by many people. However it's almost impossible to hack all machines and fix its own specific problems... Also, development resources are limited. For example, none of ACPI developers has VAIO. Hmmm... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message