From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 07:08:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5464E16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22E543D1D for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA3160F3; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02CC60F2; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:08:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D834133C1C; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:08:09 +0200 (CEST) To: Steve Kargl References: <53d4293a37f280317d52338c2fc6fc6d@FreeBSD.org> <20050612025402.GD67746@dragon.NUXI.org> <42ABAE43.1000704@criticalmagic.com> <20050612040224.GA6790@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050612045550.GG742@funkthat.com> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:08:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20050612045550.GG742@funkthat.com> (John-Mark Gurney's message of "Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:55:50 -0700") Message-ID: <86vf4kt5ly.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -5.2/5.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on tim.des.no Cc: Richard Coleman , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Death to toor X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:08:18 -0000 John-Mark Gurney writes: > Which is useless unless someone sets a password for it, or installs > a port like sudo that lets you to switch to it... For me, I always > change root's shell to /bin/sh, so I could care less about toor... > and since less is usually better, my vote is to drop it.. It's easy > enough to add it back.. > > Time marches on.. It does no harm, many people use it (regardless of your opinion of its usefulness), and it is a piece of BSD history. Allow me to quote from src/sbin/tunefs/tunefs.8: .\" Take this out and a Unix Daemon will dog your steps from now until .\" the time_t's wrap around. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no