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Date:      Sun, 2 Jun 1996 10:30:08 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        pechter@shell.monmouth.com (Bill/Carolyn Pechter)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, freebsd-chat@freefall.FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: vt131
Message-ID:  <199606021730.KAA23495@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <199606020309.XAA28108@shell.monmouth.com> from "Bill/Carolyn Pechter" at Jun 1, 96 11:09:28 pm

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> > > Bill
> > > ex-DEC Field Circus
> > > Vax and VT100 board shuffler...
> > 
> > uh... 12 lines.
> 
> Terry -- are you sure it wasn't 14... 14x132 under EDT is burned in my 
> brain... the docs are in the Crawl Space -- should I take a look or isn't
> it worth the bother?

probably not worth the bother.  I remember that it was half the
number of lines (24/2).  I guess 80 x 24 / 132 = 14.54, so they had
enough memory for 14.  I can dig out my manual (which isn't in a
crawlspace 8-)) if you want.  For some reason, I think they didn't
do 14 because of the bank break-down.  It could be I'm remembering
the VT102 boards they put in the DEC Rainbow 100's...

> The VT131 was a VT102 with block mode...  The VT102 was a VT100 with
> Printer Port and AVO -- but the VT101/VT102 used a different board set and 
> microcode and had a major number of very UGLY bugs in cursor speed until 
> the later rom revisions (and I think some VMS EDT workarounds to avoid 
> hitting some of these).  The Real VT101/102 was a cost reduced
> one board item instead of the VT100+AVO).  The VT101/102 had a smaller power
> supply and couldn't handle the Q-BUS backplane or VT180 Z80 CPU
> which made them VT103(Q-BUS) or VT180 (CP/M).  I've got both of them here.

8-).  Feels like "old home week"...

> There was also the PDT11/110 and 11/130 which fitted an LSI-11 chipset
> in a VT100 making for a kind of workstation running RT11.  The 11/130 used
> TU58 DECtape.  The 110 was downloaded over the serial line.

We had one of those donated to WSU -- we ran RSX on it (my memory
is now fuzzy 8-)).


> There may have been a VT130 -- but I don't remember.  Could it have been
> one of those wierd Newspaper Composition/Editing Tubes like the VT78
> based stuff.

The difference was 131 did block mode. 8-).

> Actually, if you want WIERD -- there was the multidrop DDCMP VT62 (a 52
> with wierd DECnet support and a Reverse Video command and BLOCK MODE
> designed for a transaction processing system called TRAX (which died or
> mutated and became RSX-11M+).

Ah, DDCMP. 8-).


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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