From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 23:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E5E1065675 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06B68FC13 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39416C004D; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:08:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5QN81DG001520; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:08:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:08:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20090627010801.ad737199.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200906261540.53143.erich@apsara.com.sg> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261540.53143.erich@apsara.com.sg> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:08:11 -0000 On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On 26 June 2009 pm 14:01:02 Polytropon wrote: > > Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is > > the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 > > was this the russian PDP-11? I'm not sure if there was a PDP-11 compatible system. Contruction mostly concentrated on IBM compatibles (and I don't mean PCs with that, of course). Maybe there's something USSR-special with a russian name (Iskra, Minsk, erm, no the Minsk wasn't a PDP-like...). There in fact was a system compatible to DEC's VAX architecture, the robotron K1840: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/k1840.htm It did not only have software support for VAX (with its OS SVP1800), but as well for UNIX (with its OS MUTOS1800). As far as I know, the russians (i. e. the soviets) participated, like every country in the RGW, in manufacturing computers. From the USSR, especially processors were delivered, while other countries "specialized" on other fields, such as the GDR on magnetic tape units. The P8000 was manufactured by EAW in Berlin in the GDR. It was a UNIX System III multi-user workstation environment, used mostly for application programming. http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000.htm http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000compact.htm I still own such a system and would like to get it working some day (one P8000 and one P8000 compact). So much for today's history lesson. :-) > > multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many > > years in the distant past. :-) > > You want to say 'yesterday'? No. Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. :-) Being into that "computer stuff" makes you feel old, even when you're young, because you've already seen everything... > > When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask > > him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE > > with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting > > pain. :-) > > I do not think so. He will go directly to heaven. Why? He made all > computer users pray that no data get lost when the machine > freezes again. And finally, he invented God, the Heaven, the Hell (delivered in small packages called "Windows"), the universe, life and everything. Children get educated that way, at least in today's german schools. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...