From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 18:09:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EACA106564A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lichray@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456BA8FC0A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iayy25 with SMTP id y25so6988584iay.13 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DY1XnBBJypuvt2E/4C75Anhept4j7QdlvH0oQ8K2Dqs=; b=bdc1G6kkVUohjOO97J3mfRqTf1rPX35EnrnSfLRixEy6wyUWjz6E1YJxfcA9TgswMZ 9wXBSg19LJtOQGt8rJDSJ/sXayslPtkR0MXuGCA6L4xO4nT2/tBKcJhAs7fSrKgHRebu FiGgIlyensKzUX3lTpkjDQVBvrUcC045wWV5JBkRc5P0vC1HF78Zd44l6mBpQAAInTvn PpsYESUHkXtAfELW7pd69BgRj7gC3HPz2PeH9jcDvj7WgE6OTrY7KZXftNmjNHSgWRi9 h+1WTudrGhFs/jW3p7cPnw192ZyvwD39/JS2SJ9Gq3BeKSo8afEwwr0t/I8Fv6Z1tv8o dvLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.106.147 with SMTP id du19mr9677272icc.56.1347905361306; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.127.76 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:09:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <63507.1347905101@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <63507.1347905101@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:09:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Zhihao Yuan To: Poul-Henning Kamp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:09:32 -0000 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message > , Zhihao Yuan writes: > >>Well, let's make it more straightforward. I hope people can agree with >>this: a default, officially supported modern desktop environment is >>essential to FreeBSD. > > No, it is not. > > It would certainly be nice to have as an option, but I would hate > to have to deal with it, when I squeeze FreeBSD into embedded systems > which have neither graphics outputs nor keyboard or mouse inputs. "Default" does not mean you "have to" install it. Default means when you are looking for a DE, bsdinstall, handbook, official site, all of them answers "*DE". > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. -- Zhihao Yuan, nickname lichray The best way to predict the future is to invent it. ___________________________________________________ 4BSD -- http://4bsd.biz/