From owner-cvs-all Wed Apr 10 22:36:42 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wemm.org (12-232-135-171.client.attbi.com [12.232.135.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8123437B41B; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3B5aXQ26908; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695D73810; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , asmodai@wxs.nl, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, jhb@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Feature removal without replacement In-Reply-To: <20020411114203.H54120@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:36:33 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020411053633.695D73810@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at 19:41:14 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message: <20020411102253.C8400@wantadilla.lemis.com> > > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > >> On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at 7:42:48 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai wrot e: > >>> -On [20020410 07:30], Greg 'groggy' Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > >>>> We're still telling people in the documentation that Userconfig is > >>>> functional, and I believe it still is in -STABLE. > >>> > >>> Doc does not document CURRENT. Unless policy changed while I was gone. : ) > >>> [Or if I never paid really close attention in the first place. :) ] > >> > >> I wasn't specifically talking about the doc project. It's not at all > >> clear from the commit log that this implied removing userconfig (in > >> fact, it seems that that wasn't peter's intention at all), it's not in > >> UPDATING, and it's not in the release notes. > > > > It is now (I added the last line). Note that careful study of the > > mail in question, not all that hard to find, will show the > > implications. > > > > 20000612: > > Peter took an axe to config(8). Be sure that you read his mail > > on the topic before even thinking about updating. You will > > need to create a /boot/device.hints or add a hints directive > > to your config file to compile them in statically. The format > > of the config file has changed as well. Please see GENERIC or > > NEWCARD for examples of the new format. > > > > Indirectly, this also breaks USERCONFIG > > This is not strong enough. Plenty of things got broken and then fixed > again in the last two years. Well, Greg, Since it is obviously a national f*cking emergency, I will drop everything and get right on it! Since nobody has cared enough to even mention the fact that it has been broken for the last two years is obviously no excuse for forgetting about it while we had *real* problems to deal with. As long as we've got our priorities right, I guess that's all that matters! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message