From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 10 16:44:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DDAA7EF for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 16:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D15510FF for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 16:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pabsx10 with SMTP id sx10so90786621pab.3 for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 09:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=rlKYz1iid9P8MhOrXe7NNk0fLtXH/RbuBCM2nm5bVpg=; b=g5nPPx5etbg2M9kC5YLUizI/49OVqsNPnUEnydvP/g2myNuxzTWOhtibMFJMPKZtfz EYodKATUFUesm7oxYBu/k6paNwa1HIHfPTpEUKr3d+aTlqL+YtwY5ACKSRitZD2Ug/pc TFxQtfA1ItCbr9zywN04GU2FeLaqnVE3Q5oWIACTZVBeMonSAZTNxoaCYquHrKBkpHq7 juaY+zXJ3ZwXCKnx+Ss6oTSk5VDqitF3jT36q9XGOtUzfxkUlkyYm4sEEoE7M3T8Cp3b QHE4IrqYviOV+3qdPbvbL89AlDst4hQhIobC0n1yohzc7yyNCecQlFjl8UNOkkI/lsPd diYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkKB5HnW5nla5ptMHZf0UIH0xTQucZeYg21U5n5Wr1n2OxnV5mFVoYsKV83fNUAaIEyTy+y X-Received: by 10.70.126.225 with SMTP id nb1mr12723419pdb.71.1431276241604; Sun, 10 May 2015 09:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmwl-abrashear.corp.netflix.com ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id da2sm10627763pbb.57.2015.05.10.09.43.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2015 09:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: RPi2 support... Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FDCE2CFA-2660-491F-B958-CB6381AC9D86"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <533BAAAD-C76C-4112-9E4A-348B4FE0DDB9@netgate.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 10:43:57 -0600 Cc: Glen Barber , Tim Kientzle , Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-arm Message-Id: <8E2D8AD6-003A-467A-80F8-040AA96FA988@bsdimp.com> References: <0FD2F2B4EF6E490B9DB6CEF1119ECB70@ad.peach.ne.jp> <2DD4D1CE-E05B-44D7-B396-92BB4CD1D98D@kientzle.com> <20150510054019.GW94075@hub.FreeBSD.org> <533BAAAD-C76C-4112-9E4A-348B4FE0DDB9@netgate.com> To: Jim Thompson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 16:44:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_FDCE2CFA-2660-491F-B958-CB6381AC9D86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 10, 2015, at 1:42 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On May 10, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Glen Barber wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> I personally fail to see the reasoning behind this, but I'm looking = at >> things from an entirely different perspective, I suppose. While it's >> great that your tools provide a mechanism to produce a build as >> non-root, FreeBSD releases are built as the root user. >=20 > I=E2=80=99d rather they weren=E2=80=99t. >=20 > There are=E2=80=A6 reasons. Nanobsd will soon have working not-build-as-root support, in addition to integrating packages and/or qemu cross build environment, in addition to having a few meta-scripts that will make things a snap to use. Not sure it is right for the =E2=80=99sample=E2=80=99 images that are = produced from make release, but it should be quite a bit more flexible than any of the = other alternatives today. Warner --Apple-Mail=_FDCE2CFA-2660-491F-B958-CB6381AC9D86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVT4rOAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEA2dYP/0p/K3rMXIUKEddRYuUwwpF1 1PPNvcJTSMt5Cjz3L+oVJOqz2SMEOuje1JLCgP2OGkOJ4Rh3GlNhCNRTnE6D7P5K 3Nu5p3iZ92I9F5+7bPltuk3A92sLLs4ba6LplmPSMtPjQ5/A/eWoTeOD17glQEzH ISqS4w7KMGqgLHDMSs3DEml+jsTN+gkozRdI2NmI3Vbe+3QKeP+6JGiYwQzjFfwn hxcILy5gC91WYaRECdqUjcr4UY/3wNGiFRKgWXL7bHpKTyY55BfaJnup9x93O6cF O4I6zajT4v0wHh8tSvm5f+NeYdNWcwJMfyWf1x+Mc+l3xbDL6uX0RT41hSfQibTb FZdhl0qi/5VPjtpWy9WnTmre0ucSxQwfZ9nOKMrQPrPyjZXbwXDG0eE3NQDs0tsM 7x3l2w+mz7944AsEjtFSwK9rNJ4Gry4rs4294iwySC5luhMix56PnbYmH7y3Z+X/ LRx3HVkH/iIGAcxXD2Bnlx1GiuEpT+L8Sawmd9z9pEVdHY5yOdm8fcoiFSpQl9Em wN8gptqn91ryw1EbQW/wLf9hjauqQY+b4GgMKunCQiRh+jxQnbKQutucEZr21fEE 4elTgNwavldHoij973ElRRE2fA3dBQ8s7uw9cRuYse3FDF2hqlv9IOtVYP38wwNp w8Sb8NwMQJhKvAnvK7ov =HpIt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_FDCE2CFA-2660-491F-B958-CB6381AC9D86--