From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 6 01:47:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303C1065731; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 01:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048F38FC08; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 01:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n561lmGX014794 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:47:48 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n561llld004385; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:47:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n561ljFw004384; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:47:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:47:45 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20090606014745.GC9161@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <4A254B45.8050800@mavhome.dp.ua> <200906050703.n5573x5Q071765@apollo.backplane.com> <4A2956C6.5070902@samsco.org> <4A29694B.2090606@elischer.org> <4A297187.2090701@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A297187.2090701@samsco.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Alexander Motin , FreeBSD Current , Julian Elischer , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WIP: ATA to CAM integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:47:58 -0000 --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-Jun-05 13:27:03 -0600, Scott Long wrote: >Every one of Matt's emails follow this formula: > >1. I don't know how FOO works, but how you're doing it is wrong >2. Here's how I think FOO should work >3. I'm going to work on FOO in DragonFlyBSD and have it done in a week. > >1 and 2 are ignorant and worthless in a technical conversation, and 3 is= =20 >off topic for FreeBSD mailing lists. So yes, I'm calling him out. Well, I have seen little evidence of 1. 2 _can_ be relevant in an architectural discussion. 3 may or may not be relevant - it depends whether FreeBSD can make use of the work or not. I agree with Julian that you are being unnecessarily provocative. IMHO, Matt has made a positive contribution to this thread. Rather than quoting him out of context, how about you take a chill pill and consider what benefits FreeBSD can gain by reusing work done by other free Unices. --=20 Peter Jeremy --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkopysEACgkQ/opHv/APuIcfMgCfQtuur3fxxWJA5Y/e5TUkr5JV CBMAoITs7gvN+hV225NiNxgtdqa+dE7W =X5V5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx--