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Date:      Tue, 15 Apr 2025 15:07:42 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Clinton Bessesen <cbessesen@kbcnetworks.com>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>,  "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W
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For the cross compilation of Firefox for the Raspberry Pi zero 2W at 32 bit
on my AMD64 PC,should I choose armv6 or armv7 ?

Define the cross-compilation toolchain variables:

export TARGET=3Darm
export TARGET_ARCH=3Darmv7

thanks.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 2:03=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.=
com>
wrote:

> In addition,I will try to cross compile Firefox for 32 and 64 bit on my P=
C
> where I have installed FreeBSD for x86-64 following this fresh tutorial :
>
>
> https://www.siberoloji.com/how-to-cross-compile-software-for-arm-architec=
ture-on-freebsd-operating-system/
>
> because doing it directly on the raspberry pi zero is impossible...
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I made a mistake before. The image that's seems to be more appropriate
>> for the raspberry pi at 32 bit does not seems to be this one :
>>
>> FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz
>> <https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD=
-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz>
>>
>> but this one :
>>
>> FreeBSD-13.5-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20250403-f8cd0c8e20b0-259236.img.xz
>>
>> Don't know what differences there are between these versions.
>>
>> With that said,the Superuser.com post says :
>>
>> *Install the 32 bit version of Firefox*
>>
>> By installing the 32 bit version of firefox (apt-get install firefox:i38=
6)
>> the base memory usage is only about 50% of what it is with the 64 bit.
>>
>>
>> To be able to cut 50% of the memory usage in one only shot is very
>> appealing. It's hard to refuse this benefit....
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:48=E2=80=AFPM Clinton Bessesen <
>> cbessesen@kbcnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Be careful when suggesting 32bit application on a 64bit RISC
>>> architecture. The 32bit instruction set is a separate license and not e=
very
>>> silicon manufacturer is still going to be implementing the ARMv7
>>> instruction set on ARMv8 or ARMv9 architecture.
>>>
>>> I would rather go down the path of optimising firefox memory management
>>> (remove some of the legacy code).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Clinton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org <owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org> *=
On
>>> Behalf Of *Mario Marietto
>>> *Sent:* 15 April 2025 11:10
>>> *To:* Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
>>> *Cc:* Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>; freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think,this version :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD=
-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For
>>> example,installing the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi ze=
ro
>>> (if it exists),according with this post :
>>>
>>> [image: superuser.com]
>>> How can I configure Firefox to assume I have less memory?
>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/459448/how-can-i-configure-firefox-to-=
assume-i-have-less-memory>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least
>>> in Linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mario.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@g=
mail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero
>>> 2W ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16=E2=80=AFAM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gm=
ail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the
>>> raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses...  (
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard like that I've bought
>>> (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.
>>>
>>> I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy (and not only here)
>>> does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they w=
ill
>>> not work.  I found this adapter :
>>>
>>> https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004
>>>
>>> I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I
>>> want to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) I attach the BT dongle
>>>
>>> 2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal
>>>
>>> 3) I attach your adapter
>>>
>>> 4) I do the pairing
>>>
>>> 5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts workin=
g.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can exonerate FreeBSD
>>> from recognition or maybe it's better to say make it work,the BT dongle
>>> that I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard
>>> will be recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD
>>> installed on the Raspy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> closed parentheses )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59=E2=80=AFAM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com=
> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:
>>> >> Why isn't there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi
>>> zero 2W ?
>>> >
>>> > Hello Mario,
>>> >
>>> > You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that
>>> you're demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:
>>> >
>>> > "Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms,
>>> specifically the Zero 2 W?"
>>> >
>>> > I haven't checked recently, but one of the issues I've seen preventin=
g
>>> a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless dri=
ver
>>> (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the
>>> situation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.
>>> >
>>>
>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi does not list
>>> any RPi* has having "WiFi" OK. It explicitly lists
>>> "Unsupported" for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .
>>> As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any
>>> built-in WiFi or the like.
>>>
>>> In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D
>>> Mark Millard
>>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mario.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mario.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mario.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>
>
> --
> Mario.
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:24px;line-height:36px">For the cross=
 compilation of Firefox for the Raspberry Pi zero 2W at 32 bit on my AMD64 =
PC,should I choose armv6 or armv7 ?</p><p style=3D"font-size:24px;line-heig=
ht:36px">Define the cross-compilation toolchain variables:</p><div class=3D=
"gmail-highlight" style=3D"font-size:24px;line-height:36px"><div class=3D"g=
mail-code-toolbar"><pre tabindex=3D"0" style=3D"background-color:rgb(248,24=
8,248);font-size:21px;line-height:31.5px" class=3D"gmail-language-sh"><code=
 class=3D"gmail-language-sh" style=3D"font-size:21px;line-height:31.5px">ex=
port TARGET=3Darm
export TARGET_ARCH=3Darmv7</code></pre></div></div>thanks.</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 2:03=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
In addition,I will try to cross compile Firefox for 32 and 64 bit on my PC =
where I have installed FreeBSD for<span style=3D"font-size:18px;line-height=
:24px"><span style=3D"font-size:18px;line-height:24px"> x86-64 following th=
is fresh tutorial : </span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"=
https://www.siberoloji.com/how-to-cross-compile-software-for-arm-architectu=
re-on-freebsd-operating-system/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.siberoloji.c=
om/how-to-cross-compile-software-for-arm-architecture-on-freebsd-operating-=
system/</a></div><div><br></div><div>because doing it directly on the raspb=
erry pi zero is impossible...</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM =
Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I made a mistake before. Th=
e image that&#39;s seems to be more appropriate for the raspberry pi at 32 =
bit does not seems to be this one :</div><div><br></div><div><div><a href=
=3D"https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD=
-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz" target=3D"_blank">FreeBSD-14.2-RE=
LEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz</a></div><div><br></div><div>but this one =
:</div><br></div><div></div><div>FreeBSD-13.5-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-202504=
03-f8cd0c8e20b0-259236.img.xz</div><div><br></div><div>Don&#39;t know what =
differences there are between these versions.</div><div><br></div><div>With=
 that said,the Superuser.com post says :</div><div><br></div><div><p style=
=3D"font-size:15px;line-height:27px"><b style=3D"font-size:15px;line-height=
:27px">Install the 32 bit version of Firefox</b></p>

<p style=3D"font-size:15px;line-height:27px">By installing the 32 bit versi=
on of firefox (<code style=3D"font-size:13px;line-height:27px">apt-get inst=
all firefox:i386</code>) the base memory usage is only about 50% of what it=
 is with the 64 bit.</p><p style=3D"font-size:15px;line-height:27px"><br></=
p><p style=3D"font-size:15px;line-height:27px">To be able to cut 50% of the=
 memory usage in one only shot is very appealing. It&#39;s hard to refuse t=
his benefit.... <br></p></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:48=E2=80=AFPM Clin=
ton Bessesen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cbessesen@kbcnetworks.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">cbessesen@kbcnetworks.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>





<div lang=3D"EN-GB">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif">Be careful when suggesting 32bit application on a 64b=
it RISC architecture. The 32bit instruction set is a separate license and n=
ot every silicon
 manufacturer is still going to be implementing the ARMv7 instruction set o=
n ARMv8 or ARMv9 architecture.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif">I would rather go down the path of optimising firefox=
 memory management (remove some of the legacy code).<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif">Clinton<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b=
order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> owne=
r-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org &lt;owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mario Marietto<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 April 2025 11:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Millard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com" target=3D"=
_blank">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Zach Metzinger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zmetzing@pobox.com" target=
=3D"_blank">zmetzing@pobox.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:freebsd-arm@freeb=
sd.org" target=3D"_blank">freebsd-arm@freebsd.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2=
W<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think,this version :=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm=
/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/1=
4.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">or, maybe, Firefox can =
be optimized to run with 512 MB. For example,installing the 32 bit version =
of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi zero (if it exists),according with this post=
 :<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:18.9pt"><img border=3D"0" width=
=3D"316" height=3D"316" style=3D"width: 3.2916in; height: 3.2916in;" id=3D"=
m_9080017413352336151m_3372463959009285666m_-6666220099410758946m_764319357=
0843242486_x0000_i1025" src=3D"https://cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/superuser/Img/=
apple-touch-icon@2.png?v=3De869e4459439" alt=3D"superuser.com"><u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<div>
<h3 style=3D"line-height:18.9pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><a href=3D"=
https://superuser.com/questions/459448/how-can-i-configure-firefox-to-assum=
e-i-have-less-memory" target=3D"_blank">How can I configure Firefox to assu=
me I have less memory?
</a><u></u><u></u></span></h3>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:18.9pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applic=
ations....at least in Linux...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mario.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM Mario Marietto &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non=
e none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on th=
e Raspberry Pi Zero 2W ?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM Mario Marietto &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non=
e none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regardin=
g the wi-fi on the raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses...=C2=A0 (<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard=
 like that I&#39;ve bought (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy =
(and not only here) does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or i=
f it does,they will not work.=C2=A0 I found this adapter
 :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004</a><br>;
<br>
I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I wan=
t to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks :=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) I attach the BT dongle<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for =
the signal<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) I attach your adapter<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">4) I do the pairing<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device a=
nd it starts working.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can
<span lang=3D"EN">exonerate FreeBSD from recognition or maybe it&#39;s bett=
er to say make it work,</span>the BT dongle that I use to do the pairing wi=
th my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will be recognized as one USB keyb=
oard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed
 on the Raspy.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">closed parentheses )<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM Mark Millard &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:=
41, Zach Metzinger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zmetzing@pobox.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">zmetzing@pobox.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Why isn&#39;t there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberr=
y pi zero 2W ?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello Mario,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that yo=
u&#39;re demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms, speci=
fically the Zero 2 W?&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I haven&#39;t checked recently, but one of the issues I&#39;ve seen pr=
eventing a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireles=
s driver (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if t=
he situation has changed and, if possible,
 contribute to such work.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi</a> does not list<br>
any RPi* has having &quot;WiFi&quot; OK. It explicitly lists<br>
&quot;Unsupported&quot; for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .<br=
>
As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any<br>
built-in WiFi or the like.<br>
<br>
In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D<br>
Mark Millard<br>
marklmi at <a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>
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<span>-- </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mario.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<span>-- </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mario.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<span>-- </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mario.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gm=
ail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu=
re">Mario.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma=
rio.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma=
rio.<br></div>

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