From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 11 03:20:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE5C16A403; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFCD13C483; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l4B3KiYI026990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 10 May 2007 20:20:44 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-67-187-164-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.164.17]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l4B3Kh4Z028871 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 10 May 2007 20:20:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4643E10A.5030104@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:20:42 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Naylor References: <200705102105.27271.blackdragon@highveldmail.co.za> In-Reply-To: <200705102105.27271.blackdragon@highveldmail.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.5.10.195834 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: jkh@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD package system (a.k.a. Daemon Package System (dps)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:45 -0000 David Naylor wrote: > Dear Jordan > > Recently I stumbled across a document you wrote in 2001, entitled "FreeBSD > installation and package tools, past, present and future". I find FreeBSD > appealing and I would like to contribute it its success, and as your article > describes, the installation and packaging system is lacking. Since the > installation system is being tackled under a SoC project I am hoping to give > the packaging system a go. > > I was hoping you could help me with an update about the situation with pkg. I > have searched the FreeBSD mailing lists and have found little information on > the package system. Once I have a (much more) complete understanding of the > packaging system (and providing there is work to be done) I would like to > write up a proposal to solve the problems, and perhaps provide some > innovating new capabilities. > > After that I will gladly contribute what I can to this (possible) project and > hopefully further and improve FreeBSD. Any assistance or information you can > give I will be greatly appreciate. > > I look forward to your reply. > > David Yipes. The name of the game is to get something working in the base system, instead of dragging in multiple 3rd party packages, with licensing schemes that may not be aligned with the BSD license. SQL's great, SQL's wonderful for db use, but the problem is that supporting it from my POV would cause a lot more grief and waiting than having me wait a few months to get a BDB compatible scheme out the door. If only Oracle didn't make BDB 3.x non-BSD license friendly though.. that would be nice.. -Garrett