From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Aug 26 19:55:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88633E3B07 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46HN6349mNz3Ly3 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.161.151]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 2L5SizZN0WnTi2L5ViRQau; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:55:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:54:13 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synth and gcc-aux status? References: <5d634ae9.1c69fb81.f1a0f.cf32SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfM2anDvzaUnFLMb36+KS1ibGRTrmHUS+xktUbrU35XWT1GLJsyIUAqNkrLNJLGrzpAcLvNcL+/Jb6PGAJP7pHzDgYtZIXLP6PGZ0Q7htgmhlcTnU7OfA yFkREbekMJFBuGNFy3UwE6PAI3uhXQIJWlHQJvC9nEummttN/uclBr8X X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46HN6349mNz3Ly3 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mueller6722@twc.com designates 107.14.73.232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mueller6722@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.955,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[151.161.28.96.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-3.02), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.68), asn: 7843(-2.14), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[232.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:55:40 -0000 On 26/08/2019 12:57 pm, Thomas Mueller wrote: > What is the current status of synth with FreeBSD ports, and I could also ask about gcc-aux. > I see gcc-aux remains at v6 (gcc6-aux) while gcc is updated to 7.4.0 and 8.3, and even 9.1. > Is poudriere now the main tool for updating ports? Kubilay Kocak responded: > Poudriere has always been the main (FreeBSD) tool for QA and package building. > Note: While poudriere has overlapping functionality with portmaster and > portupgrade, in the sense that they all "build ports", poudriere was designed > primarily as a "package builder", not as a local port/package installation > tool, though it *can* be used that way. > > What is the status of portmaster and portupgrade now? > Both are maintained as far as I know. portmaster has FLAVOR support, I'm not > sure about portupgrade re FLAVORS, though I do recall seeing reports of it not > working in the not so distant past, so it may not. Where does synth fit in, or is it falling into desuetude? If synth is to have a viable future, gcc-aux will have to be updated to gcc7-aux or gcc8-aux, or simply (?) gcc with Ada support. Synth was much faster and more efficient than portmaster but had the downside of not installing build-dependency packages even when wanted by the user. I have never used poudriere but now think I might need to. Tom