From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 13 01:59:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19469 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:59:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19463 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from Pentium_PC (dialup410.serv.net [207.207.70.11]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA28800; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980613015739.007e36a0@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:57:39 -0700 To: Donald Burr , DrAcO From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: RE: Installing X-Windows Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3581B36E.C76B5891@mci2000.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:02 PM 6/12/98 -0700, Donald Burr wrote: >* Enlightenement -- not a clone of anything, but a really cool looking WM. > It, too, has its own set of devoted followers. > /usr/ports/x11/enlightenment Yikes! I had to comment on Enlightenment. First of all, don't use it on a 486, it's too slow. Secondly, it resembles a lot of those Adobe Photoshop plugins, seriously! It's SO overly graphical that it's hard to make heads or tails of (it looks like the guy who used to do the Wired Magazine layouts designed it ;-). But I found it to be interesting anyway. Also of mention in FreeBSD is xdm, a windows manager that can help integrate several different X-clients. For those that haven't, try typing xdm while logged on as root (only root can use it). It's pretty cool - the only problem is, it's hard to get rid of - when you exit it, it keeps coming back! The only way I know of to get rid of it is to open a terminal window as root and type 'killall xdm' (without the single quotes). There are probably things you can edit in the config files, too. But give xdm a try once you start playing with some different X clients. BTW, something to watch out for when installing packages... many of them have dependencies on other packages, so if you're downloading and installing from floppies or a DOS partition rather than installing from CD-ROM, you may find yourself going back over and over to download more stuff that's needed. Another reason to get a CDROM I guess (sigh... I'm SO cheap... if I can get it free off the Net, I won't pay... :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message