Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 05:12:50 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" <danny@panda.hilink.com.au> Cc: Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw vs ipfilter? Message-ID: <21937.840111170@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Aug 1996 21:35:51 %2B1000." <Pine.BSF.3.91.960815213351.6553H-100000@panda.hilink.com.au>
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[redirected to -chat] > Didn't all real hackers start out by programming TRS-80's and Apple IIe's > back in '78/'79? I've still got some of my Applesoft and 6502 programs. > I just don't have a computer to run them on. Yeah, that is indeed how a lot started out. I started in timesharing on the HP2000 access system - all you had was a BASIC interpreter :-) Later, when my friend Bruce purchased what was, if I remember correctly, one of the first 50 Apple II's to come out of Apple (complete with tempermental switching power supply :), I started banging away on that as well. Ultimately, the pain of cassette tape loads and the high cost of Applesoft ROM cards (which you were only too cool if you had one of) led me back to the HP and its far faster hard disk - a HP 2888, 50Mb of raw pack-pounding power :-) Perhaps if the Apple had been just a little more powerful, and its peripherals less expensive, I'd be a Mac programmer now instead of a timesharing operating system junkie. A sobering thought indeed. Jordan [Bruce, on the other hand, went on to become positively enamored of the machine and eventually wound up working for Apple, poor guy. :) ]
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