From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:48:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BD4106564A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9FD8FC0C; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so1355642dad.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=vq/AjXrSpV9VyFi3SstzJgRGWfsP/vMukQ5fbiIyp+U=; b=omtnumdTtALYFcd91997sPvFH0B+DkOolwIeK6OAyV1E5X7WTqj66kIo6fApwz4UYp JNngmNQwUz/YSK14Uwtb8hhdLr93arou+86jwAPZxDvyxLjBfx9DDeyn2nk3eHCwNlEy RAoDVHM7Ew2GdiTyl0gbMsZfoIsYo9IUtST4ajNbaJrE4meL3Wi6Xcf6uU4sKbfoGhRp FvZnzRlXryd5i1rljSjBR/DBIPN/ouYuBwthCBMwxWUtKX7638gtJ9OVMcD+0x//o4oe SSj3NjHUiy5SvRxj4kLEP+LOrq8FN6/jV5SpJMeKELh1tD9pjng4MPQJYAne8j1ia9tt 3dpw== Received: by 10.68.233.230 with SMTP id tz6mr36522627pbc.36.1349650096873; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuji-wireless.local (c-24-19-191-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.19.191.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e9sm9773012pay.34.2012.10.07.15.48.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <5072033A.4090308@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:48:57 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0655B56F-AD43-402B-872C-568378E650F9@fisglobal.com> <86k3v21qsx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3EB58454-7820-43C4-911E-7DEF2D02C880@fisglobal.com> <86fw5q15f9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <5071EAB2.4060003@freebsd.org> <5072033A.4090308@freebsd.org> To: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Devin Teske , Devin Teske , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Boot Loader Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:48:18 -0000 On Oct 7, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > Pico, or Nano? > I know that Pico no longer fits on a single floppy but it's still = pretty damned small. Have to be Pico. Nano is still too big by default (unless you pull = almost every feature and non-essential piece, the lowest I've gotten a = running image so far is 124MB unpacked with a GENERIC kernel. Granted, = if it wasn't GENERIC that would save 10~20 MB, but there are still other = things that need to be trimmed from the base system (another effort for = another day/thread). ... > true, though I'd like to see if it can be done without the whole extra = CD.. Should be doable with a ~64MB USB stick. I did an ok job [without = NanoBSD/PicoBSD] creating a thin client with X11 with ~140MB space used = and I wasn't trying terribly hard to pare things down (especially if = it's a compressed mfsroot :]=85). -Garrett=