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Date:      Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT)
From:      David Wolfskill <dhw@whistle.com>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Changes to login.conf
Message-ID:  <199807131442.HAA08166@pau-amma.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199807130639.XAA00272@usr07.primenet.com>

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>From: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
>Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:39:40 +0000 (GMT)

>Well, this is more along the lines of a schema based system, where you
>say "here is the proposed changes, are they consistent?".

>It's more useful that they be globally consistent than that they be
>merely internally consistent.

Quite.

>This moves into the real of LDAP and subschema enforcement, I think.

That's a possible implementation, sure.  In case it isn't Real
Obvious(!) yet, I try to avoid jumping to implementation concerns too
quickly....  :-}

>You could also consider the case of a modification to the bind
>configuration information that would result in both upper and lower
>case versions of the same host name.

Yes, though I'd class the nameserver "reality checking" as rather
distinct from /etc/rc*-checking (though the rc-checking probably ought
to do a reality check with the nameservers the host in question uses).

>There should be a method for proposing a group of changes as an atomic
>unit, and having them vetted (or rejected) as a unit.

Yes -- something that is capable of eating the global config stuff
without getting too much indigestion.  :-}  It could start fairly
limited, and if it were well-designed, could expand -- direction of
expansion being toward areas where more analgesics are required
(typically, from self-inflicted injuries)....

And if it weren't well-designed, well, then, it would either stagnate (&
be forgotten), or change:  if for the better, great; if not, it could
die.  And since it need not be an integral part of anything, its fate
would have minimal impact on anyone or -thing else.... unless, of
course, it became so useful for enough folks that they kept working on
it....  :-}

david
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