From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 22:17:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3376106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com [67.222.39.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A46818FC16 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 19958 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2008 22:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2008 22:17:21 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K80XJ-0002Io-2j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:17:21 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:12:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:12:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080615221249.GA86486@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <20080608021633.GA6799@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200806080420.31427.gnemmi@gmail.com> <11167f520806080234u2b9e29b0l13c513d783ccadaa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11167f520806080234u2b9e29b0l13c513d783ccadaa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:17:23 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 04:34:17AM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > for what it is worth, between 3 companies that I do consulting for, there > are about 250 workstations that currently use, Windows ME, or Windows > 2000.Flash and Microsoft Outlook remain the only 2 reasons we can not use > PC-BSD. Wine is making some GREAT Progress, and very shortly if not alrea= dy, > Outlook will run in wine, and the lack of a current flash player will rem= ain > the only thing standing in the way of 250 more PC-BSD stations. Unfortunately, I don't think Adobe is likely to give a damn about people who would switch to FreeBSD (or FreeBSD spin-off like PC-BSD) if there were a current, stable Flash player for the platform. All Adobe's likely to care about is people who use FreeBSD (or a spin-off) regardless of whether there's a current, stable Flash player available. Adobe wants market penetration -- which it's just as happy to get by people being "stuck" on MS Windows as by any other means. So . . . if you want your situation to provide some kind of influence on Adobe to provide current, stable Flash players for FreeBSD and its spin-offs, you need to come up with numbers of FreeBSD-based desktop systems, not a number of systems running a platform Adobe already supports that *isn't* FreeBSD-based, no matter how much you'd like to change those systems to PC-BSD. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] awj @reddit: "The terms never and always are never always true." --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhVk+EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX1LACgoz2nGnLRU3jbkK7Y9sretKGy j9AAoJ/IGydYydhAcXhX8MCp4wDwJ2Hb =sdT6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--