From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 12 16:30:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08949 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.thebestisp.com (alpha.thebestisp.com [204.220.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08826 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@thebestisp.com) Received: from subzero.thebestisp.com (subzero.thebestisp.com [204.220.33.178]) by alpha.thebestisp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA18033 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:36:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Joe" To: Subject: Re: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:41:58 -0600 Message-ID: <01bd380f$cf1581c0$b221dccc@subzero.thebestisp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org understood however all I here all day is speed.. speed.. speed.. and yes most of the connections are over a T1 or Maybe a T3 so the biggest hit would never use more than about 1/3 of a 100Mbps line but still in theory... -----Original Message----- From: Benedikt Stockebrand To: Joe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions "Joe" writes: > IF YOU DO NOT NEED TO CONNECT MORE THAN TWO COMPUTERS DO NOT USE A HUB! (did > the caps get your 'tension?) the reasons are simple 1 a hub costs money Point taken. But OTOH a hub lets you plug in a third box into that physical network, and in some situations that can be quite handy. Anyway, I didn't say that a hub was a "better" solution than a null-hub cable. > and > if you were into spending money you wouldn't be using freebsd you'd be > dealing (and spending a fortune for the same or less effect) with a > Microsoft or comperable product. Nothing compares to M$... ok, let's stop this... > And second you can't expect to get better > that 60%(+-) ie: 6Mbps rather than 10Mbps throughput so you are paying for > latency and collissions..Just my two cents.. This depends on the bandwidth your outbound connection has. Here in Krautland a 2Mbit/s line is still pretty much upper standard, so under these circumstances even a lowly 10 Mbit/s 10Base2 or 10BaseT wouldn't be seriously loaded. As far as latency goes: How much latency is caused by a hub (opposed to a switch, which is too expensive anyway) and will it be noticeable if all data is subsequently sent across a long distance connection? Ben -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand Runaway ping.de Admin---Never Ever Trust Old Friends My name and email address are not to be added to any list used for advertising purposes. Any sender of unsolicited advertisement e-mail to this address im- plicitly agrees to pay a DM 500 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message