From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon May 14 10:31:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355CA37B422; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2E6D; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:37:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3B001679.3172B050@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:31:37 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving References: <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> <20010513171444.E26123@welearn.com.au> <00f401c0db7e$ff3ca2a0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> <20010513122623.I97034@lpt.ens.fr> <20010513033434.A54250@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > Jordan and others have tried many times to get people to submit good, > newbie-friendly "default GUI environments", with close to zero > community response. Yes, it would be a good idea, SOMEONE PLEASE DO > THE WORK! :-) Getting a "default" desktop added to sysinstall would be rather like pulling teeth. After all, it already has an item to choose a default desktop. And if you do a standard install (which I haven't done in a while, so it may have changed), that question is posed to the installee. Thus, that side of the suggestion is already handled. The other side of it was to "tweak" the desktops for FreeBSD specificity. That can easily be done without changing existing packages. Just create new metapackages. As an example: kde-newbie. This would install the basic kde metapackage, and then proceed to add icons for FreeBSD documentation (and replace the silly Tux icons while it's at it). No need to twist anyone's arms. Just go create a package and submit it. The package won't be installed by default, but it will be available in the appropriate spots, like the kde meta-category. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message