From nobody Tue Feb 10 04:25:50 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4f97mM6QxYz6RNm0 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2026 04:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mm@dorfdsl.de) Received: from srv1.dorfdsl.de (srv1.dorfdsl.de [IPv6:2a01:170:118f:3::22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "srv1.dorfdsl.de", Issuer "E7" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4f97mK4xhBz3bhf for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2026 04:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mm@dorfdsl.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=dorfdsl.de header.s=default header.b=PCLd8B1Y; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=dorfdsl.de; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mm@dorfdsl.de designates 2a01:170:118f:3::22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mm@dorfdsl.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dorfdsl.de; s=default; t=1770697560; bh=Hf+0hysCcPldBvuEdEZzudcVws1tiXSGd6A50EQHGNI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=PCLd8B1Yt3uSLWReeYsVOUC/u+nr8klVTbiMqBjXqc1WnsrkIDfJ7G4cHevnu/kW2 9jVe25pVTfAtRx0UUpyzF48V7FLrojFhgPF/KBlPDAt1xoLr0L9pq6eG1zSgdnNZEy e4wfd1lwR2zkSiC1UWKyKznq9Hf6MmgVbW8YYGaaA5HvgAF5DBN/0Y8TfUZtG4YMk+ WdOUyHF1hiGRBvX2T/NIOANFVuYxBXyTmbVjpCRUDWA29qyDJiZTRb/8ZuZB89ZjDG frJr4eYfk+zMODhMJO6CasIIhz+7YV30y+Jc7/3wxV3ITzfu7rZ1bVxf4Ji2+DV7Yi s/I42Q6qAii1A== Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2a01:170:118f:5:3e52:82ff:fe12:1692]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6) with ESMTPSA id 61A4Pvmh263241 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2026 05:26:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 05:25:50 +0100 From: Marco Moock To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the plan for powerpc64 in FreeBSD 16 Message-ID: <20260210052550.0579207b@dorfdsl.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.51; x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/.Co+=vf5tUyGb=7myPiTrvO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.44 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.544]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dorfdsl.de,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dorfdsl.de:s=default]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:170:118f:3::22]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dorfdsl.de:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8820, ipnet:2a01:170:1000::/36, country:DE]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mm]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4f97mK4xhBz3bhf X-Spamd-Bar: ----- --Sig_/.Co+=vf5tUyGb=7myPiTrvO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10.02.2026 00:45 Minsoo Choo wrote: > And this is industry trend. The only ppc manufacturer for POSIX > platforms, IBM, has been moving away from ppc64be. Major Linux > distros, including developed by IBM subsidiary RedHat, only offer > ppc64le binaries (RedHat and clones, CentOS, Fedora, SUSE, etc). Many > drivers assume that the host is running on little-endian, so those > drivers fail to work on big-endian systems. ppc64be is poorly > maintained and tested across many OSes and I don't see why we should > continue supporting it when there is no benefit. The IBM POWER systems support switching between big-endian and little-endian. IBM AIX runs on be, RHEL or SUSE run on le. Is there any reason not to run FreeBSD in le too? --=20 kind regards Marco Send spam to abfall1770680705@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de --Sig_/.Co+=vf5tUyGb=7myPiTrvO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJPBAEBCAA5FiEEpXefSZn9R6zNZtTQE76RLz2tRfAFAmmKs04bFIAAAAAABAAO bWFudTIsMi41KzEuMTEsMiwyAAoJEBO+kS89rUXwuUUP/AzkoWKUntmmRrNHysw9 ICvl3x4Z2RA8nWfH0WbOgz0RYD2l5s6wjl7Re/5MysOLaOVPdGJ3bdXerAkJbZjU SuFLODCRFjz/2Rj180SHjhvFKXN9vaYMgeYk5UKsIuWye3iQxIY7AjxjQRIfM7Fy sVSm6t0iURwV7IaVC/HzNTYa/ohBWE5uDH6maRgaMcrxB4mnM88btj6ZEgiO5KQI uPrF6X0fihABkaThYAdB3u3eX2uyE0HGMJnX5e24nbIFPjCl+vzU0+BEAvRSuOcy dQIiK1gM3y/JAoIDpeisoy33QywYCHQDv/Q0f8VkHKDiEK+YJFqEgjUeVtdoWzm4 FdptYBXaF9Z6MbQ0TEZGU3M870mZfGkwOerenVTGuS9quTiQ0YkdFM/GzWBHngg/ T4UErPjDWdyWj1g0bguQ3Gut23peUC3n+o+c0NKpl7kIeyLJueITwiHp8veA3K8h ZpHpJw1qGRDlasYm5Tnzbpz98LGJyytCaf6KfqE8gm00cLI9vpfIHFbloentnrKz uZuMaR6Bot2vOD5l23Mud5YbYPPQmDWhxuSr2c03NjBpN2V+tH6IfwO3y9TiUw8I A+zo9B/kukb0DP4NU/atGYTioEZNzAhab5vlnQvceovzt2Pj0tf0Dl/SaIYH4deS peNFXJqyncv4n3NgzjzG3X80 =29Fb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.Co+=vf5tUyGb=7myPiTrvO--