From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 17 04:00:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA10657 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 04:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA10651 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 04:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA04804; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:02:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:02:38 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: "Amancio Hasty Jr." , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win32 In-Reply-To: <199603171158.MAA09452@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eat good food, preserve nature, be nice to all nice people :) On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > [Subject shortened] > > > > > > > Two things that can can attract more individuals to FreeBSD: > > > > o ability to run Win32 applications -- hows the Willows Project coming along? > > I think the main problem with Willows is performance. Apps are run under > an interpreter (xwin) either interpreted or 'native'. > I have run winmine.exe and sol.exe and though they run quite correct > performance isn't something that knocks you off of your socks. > > Also I think one would have to dump X11 in favor of a native Win32 graphics > kernel or build a Win32 graphics kernel into X. > And that (dumping X) will also be the reason more numerous people will not use it. > I don't know whether a different approach like running PE format and > other MS .exe formats native under FreeBSD would be feasable. > It should be possible to run them as efficently as the Linux programs. > When MS developed NT they must have been faced with a similar problem > but they solved it with convincing performance. And didn't they promise > us POSIX layers and X11 and what not when I recall the first overhead > foils that had been presented by DEC and NT apostels a couple of years ago? > > > > > > A few people that I have spoken to have said that if they could run > > win32 apps they would use freebsd. The funny thing is that I didn't > > notice a hesitation on their part 8) > > > > Another reason, is to attract Win32 application developers to FreeBSD. > > > > Perhaps, I am naive however I think that many would love to dump > > Win3.1 and Win95. > > [fast internet connection / ISDN issues deleted] > > > > > > > Amancio > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de >