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[71.237.89.24]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r75sm1457901itb.25.2018.03.07.08.11.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Mar 2018 08:11:34 -0800 (PST) From: To: "'Philip M. Gollucci'" , "'Josh Goldstein'" Cc: References: <2qlIxkRi5z3KdCx9V9B4iM8LUWPRZX8N39oco_rqaxdrd3NXzlF_Qjyd05r1jIHwU9wjF0wXJYg1-cY8T5w1CMV3HHosVFObe4_kZDlRPIc=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:11:34 -0700 Message-ID: <0b1c01d3b62e$f6eb4140$e4c1c3c0$@freebsdfoundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQKCID0Fl90T2yGwnBNyYViQCKbXvQL7EnF3olBEIrA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:11:37 -0000 Hello Philip and Josh, Sorry, for the delay in my response, and thank you for inquiring how we = are spending our money. I need to keep this reply short, as I=E2=80=99m = on my way to the airport to attend SCALE to promote FreeBSD and recruit = more users and contributors to the Project. I will write up a more = formal statement after I arrive in California. This week has been = tough, with two major conferences happening this week. To answer Julien=E2=80=99s original question, no, the Foundation did not = pay for the CoC. However,, as we=E2=80=99ve been publicizing in our = monthly newsletters in 2016 and the FreeBSD quarterly status reports, we = did support the new Code of Conduct efforts by paying for a few hours of = time for an outside consultant to provide guidance and advice to the = CoC review committee made up of volunteers from within and outside the = FreeBSD community. The funding comes out of our general funds, like = other support we provide to the Project. The consultant did not write = the CoC, only provided advice. =20 To address Philip=E2=80=99s concern, we have always been public with our = spending. Please check out our financial reports here: = https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/financials/ When you look at our P&L, you can see that we do not break out every = expense. For example, you won=E2=80=99t see how much we spent on = individual events, like the Bay Area Vendor Summit, or how much we paid = to sponsor AsiaBSDCon or BSDCon. Most of that is lumped into Project = Spending expense accounts. Paying for a consultant to provide guidance = into making sure the FreeBSD Project is inclusive, welcoming, and safe, = is part of our charter of supporting the FreeBSD Project and community. = I=E2=80=99ll also include here, that it was important to have that = expertise on putting together the reporting process. I understand that = there are people on this mailing list that are concerned about how we = are spending their donations, and I believe there is a misunderstanding = of how much we actually spent on this. To be clear, it was less than .1% = of our budget. Over 60% off our budget goes directly to software = development, with most of the rest going to release engineering and = security team support, FreeBSD infrastructure, and FreeBSD advocacy and = education. In fact, here is a list of the areas we supported in 2017, = copied from my December blog post: In 2017, your support helped us advance the Project through:=20 * Increasing the software development projects we are managing and = funding, by internal and external software developers, including the = OpenZFS RAID-Z Expansion project, Broadcom Wi-Fi infrastructural = improvements (bhnd(4) driver), increasing Intel server support, and = extensive progress towards a fully copyfree toolchain. * Growing the number of FreeBSD contributors and users from our global = FreeBSD outreach and advocacy efforts, including expanding into new = regions like China, India, Africa, and Singapore. * Keeping FreeBSD secure and reliable by having staff members fill = leadership roles on the Security and Release Engineering teams. * Starting up nascent internship/stipend programs by participating in = the University of Waterloo Co-op program, where we are hiring interns = for four-month periods to work directly on FreeBSD, and the University = Politehnica Bucharest, where we are providing stipends to students doing = research projects with FreeBSD. * Providing face-to-face opportunities such as developer and vendor = summits and company visits to help facilitate collaboration between = commercial users and FreeBSD developers,as well as helping to get = changes pushed into the FreeBSD source tree, and creating a bigger and = healthier ecosystem. * Utilizing a full-time staff member to ensure stability, reliability = and high performance via ongoing maintenance and bug fixes. =20 Most of you probably noticed that there is no mention of supporting the = FreeBSD CoC. That=E2=80=99s because this work was done in 2016. As I = mentioned earlier, the bulk of our funding goes directly to supporting = the Project, and that includes the salaries of our limited staff. We = also spend funding on a Human Resources consultant periodicity, an = accountant, an office, computers, and other administrative areas that = support our efforts. As someone who has traveled around the world, meeting FreeBSD = contributors who are new to the Project, and also many who have been = with it for a long time, I=E2=80=99m always impressed with the passion = and love for FreeBSD. I=E2=80=99m here to support our constituents, and = listen to what you want us to support. We are not a trade association = like some of the other open source foundations out there. Our sole = purpose is to support the FreeBSD Project and community. Though, we = don=E2=80=99t have enough funding to do the work we are currently doing, = we will step in the fill needs of the Project. Along with my staff, we are committed to supporting this Project. I = stand by the support we provided to the community to craft a better = Project CoC. As most people know, I will respond over email. If you = have specific concerns about the CoC, I=E2=80=99m open to listening. = But, please be specific on what concerns you. However, since I was not = part of the CoC effort, it would be best to send your concerns directly = to the core team, who is working on a process for committers to provide = their feedback on the current CoC. =20 Sincerely, =20 Deb Goodkin Executive Director The FreeBSD Foundation =20 =20 From: Philip M. Gollucci =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 07:39 To: Josh Goldstein Cc: deb@freebsdfoundation.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Foundation CoC involvement =20 I'm perplexed, speaking as a previous officer of the ASF - Nearly = everything we spent money on was public. I know the staff and infra = budgets are. I wrote them for two years. =20 At the moment I have no opinion on if this was good or bad to spend on; = however as a 501c(3) vs 501c(6) you have limits on what can be asked for = untargeted donations. =20 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Josh Goldstein via freebsd-advocacy = > = wrote: Deb, Several people have now asked and you have yet to respond, so I will raise the question again in a new thread in case you're ignoring the politics thread: Did The FreeBSD Foundation pay for works related to the Code of Conduct, and if so how much did it pay, and to whom for what services? I don't think this is an unreasonable question; several of us have donated money to the Foundation and would like to know how it is being spent. Personally I assumed development but that appears to not be the case and I need to reassess my commitment. Regards, Josh _______________________________________________ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org = mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org = " =20 --=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- 4096R/ = = D21D2752 ECDF B597 B54B 7F92 753E E0EA F699 A450 D21D 2752 Philip M. Gollucci ( pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) = c: 703.336.9354 Member, Apache Software Foundation Committer, FreeBSD Foundation Consultant, P6M7G8 Inc. Director Cloud Technology, Capital One What doesn't kill us can only make us stronger; Except it almost kills you.