From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 29 18:50:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7C7C7D; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A489AFB9; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pakbsde14.localnet (unknown [38.105.238.108]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20E58B97D; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:50:43 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a new TCP_IGNOREIDLE socket option Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:50:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p22; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201301221511.02496.jhb@freebsd.org> <5100EAD3.2090006@networx.ch> <201301241114.40734.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201301241114.40734.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301291350.39931.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:50:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: Sepherosa Ziehau , Bjoern Zeeb X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:50:43 -0000 On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:14:40 am John Baldwin wrote: > > > Agree, per-socket option could be useful than global sysctls under > > > certain situation. However, in addition to the per-socket option, > > > could global sysctl nodes to disable idle_restart/idle_cwv help too? > > > > No. This is far too dangerous once it makes it into some tuning guide. > > The threat of congestion breakdown is real. The Internet, or any packet > > network, can only survive in the long term if almost all follow the rules > > and self-constrain to remain fair to the others. What would happen if > > nobody would respect the traffic lights anymore? > > The problem with this argument is Linux has already had this as a tunable > option for years and the Internet hasn't melted as a result. > > > Since this seems to be a burning issue I'll come up with a patch in the > > next days to add a decaying restartCWND that'll be fair and allow a very > > quick ramp up if no loss occurs. > > I think this could be useful. OTOH, I still think the TCP_IGNOREIDLE option > is useful both with and without a decaying restartCWND? *ping* Andre, do you object to adding the new socket option? -- John Baldwin