From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 17:11:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C61E1065688 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991978FC20 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:11:41 -0500 id 000D52E8.48F775CF.000020AE Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:11:07 -0500 id 00130CED.48F775AB.00010AAA Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:11:07 -0500 Message-ID: <20081016121107.17qwm4xcs6kgwg884@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:11:07 -0500 From: eculp@casasponti.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> <48F75A88.1000507@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080925 Firefox/2.0.0.17 X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimate bounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:11:48 -0000 Luke Dean escribi=F3: > > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Until the wonderful day that the entire internet abides by these =20 >> rules[*], use >> of technologies like SPF and DKIM can discourage but not entirely =20 >> prevent the >> spammers from joe-jobbing you. > > I just started getting these bouncebacks en masse this week. > My mail provider publishes SPF records. > If the names and numbers in the bouceback messages are to be =20 > believed, however, the spammers have defeated SPF by hijacking DNS. =20 > The poor recipients never see my SPF records because they're looking =20 > at the wrong IP address. Thanks, Matthew. I guess that is the root problem of spf, the =20 spammers, that it is supposed to stop. It looks a bit like our =20 economy, a loosing battle. It really make me feel impotent this morning. Have a great day, ed