From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 10:59:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCD316A468; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844713C4DD; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A812099; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:14 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: -0.2/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31E0207E; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 98321844AF; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:13 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <47873174.4040802@gmail.com> <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080111092015.GA17702@freebie.xs4all.nl> <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com> (Aryeh M. Friedman's message of "Fri\, 11 Jan 2008 04\:23\:49 -0500") Message-ID: <863at4fx1a.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:13:41 +0000 Cc: Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:18 -0000 [moved to -chat from -current] "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: > If one never tries to change something then it will never get changed > and dismissing something as impossible from the get go is the hight of > close mindiness (which everyone is accusing me of when the fact is I > was not the one that started using dishonest debating methods) The fall of the USSR proved you wrong. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no