From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 00:51:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB2B16A420 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:51:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpkirchner@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F219043D53 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpkirchner@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1202313wxc for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:51:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r80ZFdt6qm/8K2EN1Ki7zBtaKKmXPJ7Oht8lC4+thJ1SDswylJxza8+ZNPU2XEDIQSTNWeWAeP7zqlXepmIDnQypK6i3moN04rfhA46SURlrmLJLZ2keuI0opuvf08q3akun+f7m86nrXBhv3VA7IDeUOGmFcDSSn2c5fThHrMA= Received: by 10.70.29.16 with SMTP id c16mr4317075wxc; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.104.18 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35c231bf0511161645y1dbf3f08v8e19f334847f9767@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:45:01 -0800 From: David Kirchner Sender: dpkirchner@gmail.com To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <20051117001903.08B0043D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200511170004.31463.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20051117001903.08B0043D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions , RW Subject: Re: Release engineering confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:51:19 -0000 On 11/16/05, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Thank you. However, that entire page out of the handbook pretty much > clarifies that a production environment should *not* track either STABLE > or CURRENT. > > So I'm assuming I'm best off with RELENG_6_0 etc, etc? Does anyone here > actually run STABLE or CURRENT in a production environment? I've > personally had the most luck with RELENG_4 which is still my main box, > but now my curiosity has got the best of me. > > Steve Ultimately it depends on how much downtime and difficulty you're willing to endure, just in case the -STABLE branch ends up not working for your servers for some particular reason. We use -RELEASE almost exclusively (we have one -STABLE machine, because we needed a newer version of a kernel driver) as we manage hundreds of servers, and there's no one -STABLE release (to properly describe the -STABLE version you're using you have to have the date and time of the cvsup, as opposed to -RELEASE versions being like 5.4-RELEASE-p9). It's easier, and thus more reliable, for us to have stable(heh) version strings. If you're just working with a handful of servers, -STABLE would probably be fine, as long as you have backups and know how to revert to previous versions when it becomes necessary.