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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 20:54:32 -0500
From: Tim Tsai <tim@futuresouth.com>
To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" <danny@panda.hilink.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Changing password via web ?
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On Mon, Aug 18, 1997 at 11:53:06AM +1000, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Tim Tsai wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 1997 at 10:27:48AM +1000, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > You can't use command line args to passwd, because they are visible using 
> > > ps(1), whereas environment vars are not visible to other processes.
> > 
> >   Yes it is.  Try ps -ae.
> 
> Yikes.  You are right.  OK, back to the drawing board.

  See http://www.westnet.com/providers

  for poppassd and wwwpass.

  Or, you can modify passwd to read from STDIN for the actual password
(which pw already supports, BTW).

  Tim