From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 06:55:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9091065680 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F70C8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4SpV-0003TD-I7 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:55:05 +0200 Received: from 93-139-99-61.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.139.99.61]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:55:05 +0200 Received: from gour by 93-139-99-61.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:55:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Gour Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:19:23 +0200 Lines: 104 Message-ID: <20110329081923.7ab516f0@atmarama.net> References: <20110329013223.ddca7453.jhsu802701@jasonhsu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/wlUftp_z0xDkjsafyEyzY/j"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-139-99-61.adsl.net.t-com.hr X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: 3Cy8q3pLN"sFiKpp%e^3=GTSm2xV5z:O1:| :WC~ei/w@ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:55:07 -0000 --Sig_/wlUftp_z0xDkjsafyEyzY/j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:32:23 -0400 Jason Hsu wrote: > I've been trying to switch from Linux to BSD for my everyday > computing (email, word processing, spreadsheets, etc.), but I > couldn't get things to work properly. =20 I'm in the same boat, and will try today again... > Are there any good tutorials for using BSD on the desktop? I'm > having much more difficulty finding good information on BSD than was > the case for Linux. In retrospect, this shouldn't be a surprise > given that Linux is relatively mainstream while BSD is very obscure. I can recommend to take a look at PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.org/) and it handbook (http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_Users_Handbook) which gives lot of information how to install & use it. > 1. Is it possible to install KDE, GNOME, or other DE from the > FreeBSD CD in a reasonable amount of time? KDE and GNOME are huge > programs, and having to download them would take too long.=20 Try latest PC-BSD 9-0 snapshot which offers KDE/GNOME/LXDE/XFCE for install and some other WMs (awesome, etc.) > 2. What's lighter than PCBSD and GhostBSD? I tried the live DVDs > on my laptop (1.4 GHz processor, 1.25 GB of RAM) and found both BSD > distros to be very sluggish. Don't know. I just played with PC-BSD which I'll put on my desktop (5yr old laptop is already running PC-BSD with XFCE). Maybe the problem was KDE if you installed that DE. > 3. How do I triple-boot Puppy Linux, antiX/Swift Linux, and > DragonflyBSD? PC-BSD handbook gives information how to dual-boot with GRUB. I personally did not try since I want to migrate from Linux and won't keep GRUB. > 4. What are the Linux Mint and Puppy Linux of the BSD universe? I > consider these two distros to set the standard in the Linux > universe, because they're so user-friendly. These are the distros > I've set out to compete against in developing Swift Linux. I never used Linux Mint nor Puppy Linux, but I believe that e.g. PC-BSD wants to be something like Ubuntu Linux in regard to its usability. In the last ~4yrs I use Archlinux for which I several times heard it is "the most BSD-like distro" (Prior to Arch, I spent >5yrs with Gentoo). However, there is one nice feature of PC-BSD coming in 9.0 and may be used in other BSD-es as well. Please, read this paper: http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/formal-paper-on-new-pbi-9-format/ All the best with your switch. ;) Sincerely, Gour =20 --=20 =E2=80=9CIn the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: CDBF17CA --Sig_/wlUftp_z0xDkjsafyEyzY/j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNkXnrAAoJECrfh83NvxfKAJAP/0w41sGn3+rtbC9bhhGp7weI HbHrEuWJlpxVMLU0Api/INqZ/2uMn1tojX1P2ZSzp2Eqmim1GGvvgCir0ukAhTDM r21H9kBB3Jq93MzmAlaARK4NhXnoMIUiOrPcGrFoXZ3VtvkXypnmc06Gob3aWIzQ 6Km97VANSUpDq1LzKCEPUEOa/cwewNu3Ejx9er+h1m9bYoU/eQUZOcNvl8xnHNAa rTb/GefgIVsfa9MMYh4jYapJDLdwzzJyC8dgqvmD9G7TzTwsroeH+Ks2eexqQwOK WbP3Jf+DtfwDKFY/u8H6wSEbGyXfoU6k/EAPtEjV3MqvpRIxWkRYEssaeH6pWyg6 UvKDt/YwBZuMzdp4A7KdL2aOe7a738oHC13SnOHSeewaaZ84MQpI3/gOq33xDaAN yokiihg4h+KiTkxrPhXW39Ynm5cbZi/Oxe17IAQ9Lg4lbeX/gWPTGYBzj4B/KBPF iOGBqAo0XjqaRt7YpvNUQVJSpACXtfu9KoKrp8GvuVIH/6L0vegCOKlRnXLbWa2f Uj7idPrZ6MNR6eNCqbonv/E83Xr1pUSWCmhn4nw6aIur4YAXhrWeAY5XweUrHoGS QaBXgJN5gUO2yXnnnDyQkMmwst4pLw20Qj4jSdWPIK+8hJ+eRXLkSA6mBg7Oe5lU OQtjWM3MA/b64pOlSVik =iOwi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/wlUftp_z0xDkjsafyEyzY/j--