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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID bd7beebe1356f1f2815627b5a57cca4f; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.200.110.1.12\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:52:16 -0800 To: Warner Losh , freebsd-arch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.200.110.1.12) References: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.48 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.32:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.32:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NWwKG3tFZz40Mj X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Warner Losh wrote on Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 19:23:53 UTC : > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 10:48 AM Warner Losh wrote: > > > Sorry for the lag of a year, it's been a crazy time for me and this fell > > through the cracks. > > . . . > > > > Oh, and #6: Demote armv6 (but not armv7) to tier 3. It's been kinda > de-facto there for a while anyway, and this will make the signalling clear > that the runway for armv6 is running out. > Yea. Some other adjustments to: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/arm/ would likely be appropriate, not just things strongly tied to just armv6. Primarily, in: QUOTE 32-bit ARMv6 and ARMv7 is officially a Tier 2 architecture, as the FreeBSD project does not provide official releases or pre-built packages for this platform due to it primarily targeting the embedded arena. END QUOTE FreeBSD does provide pre-built packages for armv7, now much better than when qemu based building was in use. (The aarch64 based builders can execute armv7 and are used for armv7 package building these days.) (armv6 builds uses qemu on amd64, which significantly limits what gets built and provided: lots fails to be built. armv7 use to have that status as well.) Also, the likes of: http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/ does have some armv6 and armv7 materials for 12.3/ , 12.4/ , 13.0/ , and 13.1/ . The wording above might stop someone from even looking for the material. (This sort of status is not a recent change.) Sure looks to be official material. (No implication of a change from Tier 2 for armv7. But the existing wording used to indicate example justifications is --and has been-- misleading.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com