From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 10:17:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0F0106564A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (host-122-100-2-194.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9528FC14 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-249-137.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.249.137]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8AAHL6w034969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:17:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8AAHFPq004300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:17:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q8AAHB4q004299; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:17:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:17:11 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120910101711.GA2511@server.rulingia.com> References: <504BD9B5.20001@shatow.net> <504BE020.1070300@FreeBSD.org> <504BE12A.50907@shatow.net> <9A528A3C-40F1-4599-ACAB-EF306033A4F2@bsdimp.com> <86pq5vtj42.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120910070331.3fe2900c@X220.ovitrap.com> <504D3002.5040308@dougbarton.us> <20120910075903.10ec8351@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120910075903.10ec8351@X220.ovitrap.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , arch@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , Eitan Adler Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:17:44 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Sep-10 07:03:31 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >you ignore here the problem the typical user will face when upgrading. Please explain this. A "typical user" doesn't use CVS so they will never notice its absence. The rare user that uses CVS (and these can be expected to become rarer over time as people migrate to other VCSs) can install it from ports. >Removing a basic component should work the other way around. Why do you consider CVS a "basic component" of FreeBSD? CVS was in the base system to support FreeBSD development but FreeBSD has moved on so there's no longer any technical reason to keep CVS in the base system. It's also GPL and FreeBSD has a long-term goal of removing all GPL code from the base system. > It should >stay in the base system as long as there are servers out there >supporting it. What do you mean by "servers ... supporting" CVS? If you're talking about FreeBSD, 9.0-RELEASE is the last release that will be available via CVS. Why should the FreeBSD 10 base system include support for a VCS that doesn't support it? If you're talking non-FreeBSD uses then there will be support for CVS servers via the ports system. On 2012-Sep-10 07:59:03 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >The moment you take out the knob off you also take out all CVS mirros. I don't follow this statement. No-one is stopping anyone else using CVS. --=20 Peter Jeremy --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBNvicACgkQ/opHv/APuIfeBwCfefFPdJSvqKtYE5G5rS+CQEww 5foAoKvoC3HXLxi/AcqWCMmky8YTzNF+ =t/+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j--