From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 28 22:06:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22608 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:06:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1y-int.prodigy.net (mail1y-ext.prodigy.net [198.83.19.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22561; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamesh@etsu.edu) Received: from localhost (jamesh@slip166-72-245-82.tn.us.ibm.net [166.72.245.82]) by mail1y-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA64446; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:03:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:03:15 -0500 (EST) From: James X-Sender: jamesh@localhost Reply-To: zjhh2@etsu.edu To: Greg Lehey cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net Subject: Re: newbies mailing list In-Reply-To: <19980301161407.25838@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 16:22:32 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:32:34PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 10:56:51 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > > > Another aspect of inappropriate newbie behaviour is their > > preparedness to blame themselves whether or not that is warranted, > > Occasionally. Usually those people aren't the rank newbies, rather > people who could benefit from -questions. > > > and then toggle into defensive mode when made to feel small. > > Yes, Real Hackers never get defensive. Not all people are hackers, there are some people that just want to use the system, not develop something new and nifty. Take for instance the college student that is learning UNIX the or the first time and wanting to explore a bit on their own, or even just do their homework without having to sit in a dull lab or work over a slow telnet. James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message