From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 26 19:07:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628CD37B401 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net.wau.nl (NET.WAU.NL [137.224.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6D43F75 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from FST777@phreaker.net) Received: from asser079.athome239.wau.nl (asser079.athome239.wau.nl [137.224.239.79]) by net.WAU.NL (PMDF V5.2-32 #38746) with ESMTP id <0HDZ00981CJ0SK@net.WAU.NL> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 04:06:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 04:06:10 +0107 (CEST) From: "Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <0HDZ00982CJ0SK@net.WAU.NL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Spruce 0.6.5 for X11 w/smtpio 0.7.9 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BSD knowledge, awarded & learning X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FST777@phreaker.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 02:07:11 -0000 hey :) On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, clayton rollins wrote: > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:40:51 +0000 > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > From: "clayton rollins" > Subject: Re: BSD knowledge, awarded & learning > > About the fear of not pointing and clicking, I get the exact same > reaction in regards to the Linux and FreeBSD boxes I have running at school (and, > they both have gui's installed; can't handle typing startx, eh?). I've > told 'em all how to get in, and went so far as to write down a username and > passwd for them, but still no takers. (I'd even be happy if they wrecked > the install, I just want to expose some people to this OS, which has > dramatically changed my life. <- not as much of an overstatement as it > sounds, I've always wanted to do more than play games, and freeBSD gives > me every bit of functionality I want.) using xdm will save them from typing startx. It will prevent you from working outside of XFree86 (but xterm will come out handy). It's a matter of taste I guess > Oh well. While they play the same stupid solitare game, i get to play > xbill, and have a C/C++ compiler at my fingertips. (Did I mention, it's free?!?) no you didn't :) but I already thought it was ;) > About learning, it seems that quite a few people don't wait until they > leave school. And, as for 'American Culture,' Michael Moore's Bowling for > Columbine should be considered required reading here. (Beyond being a > great movie, it also brings up a lot of things we'd prefer to not think about > our own culture.) I'm going to see it tuesday, and I'm looking forward to it (even though I'm not a part of the American culture). > Am I OT enough now? OT? :? > Anyways, thanks and good luck with your endeavors, > Clayton congrats with your award, and good luck with teaching your colleages and fellow-students. It's hard to teach even young dogs new tricks when it means to step out of the enviroment (read: Micro$oft rubbish) one is used to... --- tcGB <>< Fi-Ji ><>