From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Jul 25 10:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D800637B400; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E8743E4A; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g6PH9en40998; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:09:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:09:40 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Bruce Evans , Doug Barton , Mike Barcroft , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Standardized make options (or no doesn't always mean no) Message-ID: <20020725170940.GA40574@sunbay.com> References: <3D02AB11.F373AB4@FreeBSD.org> <20020609123557.X21758-100000@gamplex.bde.org> <20020725070145.GE56367@sunbay.com> <20020725165940.GF58642@gits.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020725165940.GF58642@gits.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 06:59:40PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 10:01:45AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 12:42:59PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > Mike Barcroft wrote: > > > > > Is anyone planning to do something about the hugely confusing sta= te of > > > > > NO/NO_ options? I can never remember which options have an under= score > > > > > after the NO, so I end up writing commands like > > > > > `make kernel ... NO_KERNELCLEAN=3Dtrue NOKERNELCLEAN=3Dtrue'. It= would > > > > > very nice if we could standardize this and add some compatibility > > > > > shims for historical spellings. > > > > > > > > In the past versions of this conversation, the general agreement is= that > > > > going forward we should probably standardize on underscores to sepe= rate > > > > words. So, NO_FOO rather than NOFOO. However, no_volunteer has come > > > > forward to do the work you've described, so if you're volunteering.= ... > > > > :) > > >=20 > > > On my list of things to fix after the changing the spelling of "nothi= ng" > > > to "no thing". :-) :-) > > >=20 > > I'd volunteer to do it if we could come up to a (violent) agreement. > >=20 > > We'd provide the compatibility knobs that would also trigger a warning > > (a .warning to be added to make(1)) that NO_FOO should now be used > > instead of NOFOO (or vice versa, if we decide to go that way). >=20 > .warning isn't needed, let's try w/ .BEGIN :) >=20 > NOBAD=3D true > NO_GOOD=3Dtrue > NOWARN=3D true > NO_WARN=3Dtrue > NOERR=3D true > NO_ERR=3D false >=20 > _NO_VARS=3D BAD GOOD WARN ERR TOTO >=20 > .BEGIN: > .for var in ${_NO_VARS} > .if defined(NO${var}) > . if defined(NO_${var}) > . if ${NO${var}} !=3D ${NO_${var}} > # maybe this should be a .error ? > @${ECHO_CMD} "warning: both NO_${var} and NO${var} are defined and" \ > "have different values -- using NO_${var} and unsetting NO${var}." > . else > @${ECHO_CMD} "warning: both NO_${var} and NO${var} are defined" \ > "-- using NO_${var} and unsetting NO${var}." > . endif > . else > @${ECHO_CMD} "warning: NO_${var} should be defined in place of NO${var}"= \ > "-- setting NO_${var} as NO${var} and unsetting NO${var}." > . endif > .endif > .endfor >=20 > .for var in ${_NO_VARS} > .if defined(NO${var}) > . if !defined(NO_${var}) > NO_${var}:=3D${NO${var}} > . endif > . undef NO${var} > .endif > .endfor >=20 > all: > @${ECHO_CMD} BAD=3D${NOBAD}:${NO_BAD} > @${ECHO_CMD} GOOD=3D${NOGOOD}:${NO_GOOD} > @${ECHO_CMD} WARN=3D${NOWARN}:${NO_WARN} > @${ECHO_CMD} ERR=3D${NOERR}:${NO_ERR} >=20 > a non-exhaustive list of NO[^_] variable is : >=20 > NOTAGS NODOCCOMPRESS NOINFO NOINFOCOMPRESS NOPIC NOPROFILE NOEXTRADEPEND > NOFCSCHG NOSHARED NOMAN NOMANCOMPRESS NOMLINKS NOOBJ NOSGMLCOMPRESS > NOCLEAN NOCLEANDIR NOMAN NOGAMES NOPERL NOLIBC_R NOHTML NODOC > NOKERBEROS NOPORTREADMES NOPORTS NOSRC NODESCRYPTLINKS NOCRYPT > NOSECURE NOSHARE NOFORTH NOLIB NOPAM NOUUCP NOALIAS NOI4B NOINET6 > NOKLDLOAD NONAT NONETGRAPH NORADIUS NOSUID NOIPSEC >=20 > I'll try to make another knob for variable conversion such as : > NOALIAS -> PPP_NO_ALIAS, etc. >=20 > > I would personally prefer the NO_FOOs since these would make things > > more readable and disambiguate the things like NORMAL, NOTES, NODES. > > What's NODES? node(s) or "no DES"? :-) >=20 > agreed. >=20 Sounds like a plan. :-) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9QDDUUkv4P6juNwoRAomcAJ9gL9HhlJCxUPlKr5PKj2RAb00eKACeJGNs 1ycTCzsZlgLLnMA5nEA4zeo= =U3Br -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message