From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 11:03:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8932616A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DC743D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:03:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MIbYOJ092783; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i1MIbYFB092782; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:37:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tim Kientzle Message-ID: <20040222183733.GI91129@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040209022820.00faa408@pyro.convolution.ti> <20040209043217.GA1009@xor.obsecurity.org> <4027871E.8080800@mindspring.com> <4027D933.2030206@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4027D933.2030206@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -fno-strict-aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:03:23 -0000 On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:02:11AM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote: > Richard Coleman wrote: > > I think it would be more honest if the party line was "FreeBSD > >has bugs, so we can't use -O2 right now" rather than the standard reply > >of "-O2 is not supported, don't even try". > > I think the party line is very honest: > > "You are not the one millionth person to report this, > so you don't get a prize. However, you could be the > first person to fix it. ;-)" I would love to make -O2 work. But as long as "lib/libpam" is on the list of things to fix, that isn't going to happen. Someone needs to pressure DES to fix his babies [that he wont let others touch]. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)