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Date:      Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:07:32 -0500
From:      Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nfs lockd errors after NetApp software upgrade.
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Try changing bool_t do_tcp = FALSE; to TRUE in
/usr/src/sys/nlm/nlm_prot_impl.c, recompile the kernel and try again. I
think this makes it match Linux client behavior. I suspect I ran into
the same issue as you. I do think I used nolockd is a workaround
temporarily. I can provide some more details if it works.

On 12/19/19 9:21 AM, Daniel Braniss wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 19 Dec 2019, at 16:09, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Daniel Braniss wrote:
>> [stuff snipped]
>>> all mounts are nfsv3/tcp
>> This doesn't affect what the NLM code (rpc.lockd) uses. I honestly don't know when
>> the NLM uses tcp vs udp. I think rpc.statd still uses IP broadcast at times.
> can the replay cache have any influence here? I tend to remember way back issues
> with it,
>>
>> To me, it looks like a network configuration issue.
> that was/is my gut feelings too, but, as far as we can tell, nothing has changed in the network infrastructure,
> the problems appeared after the NetAPP’s software was updated, it was working fine till then.
> 
> the problems are also happening on freebsd 12.1
> 
>> You could capture packets (maybe when a client first starts rpc.statd and rpc.lockd)
>> and then look at them in wireshark. I'd disable statup of rpc.lockd and rpc.statd
>> at boot for a test client and then run something like:
>> # tcpdump -s 0 -s out.pcap host <netapp-host>
>> - and then start rpc.statd and rpc.lockd
>> Then I'd look at out.pcap in wireshark (much better at decoding this stuff than
>> tcpdump). I'd look for things like different reply IP addresses from the Netapp,
>> which might confuse this tired old NLM protocol Sun devised in the mid-1980s.
>>
> it’s going to be an interesting week end :-(
>  
>>> the error is also appearing on freebsd-11.2-stable, I’m now checking if it’s also
>>> happening on 12.1
>>> btw, the NetApp version is 9.3P17
>> Yes. I wasn't the author of the NSM and NLM code (long ago I refused to even
>> try to implement it, because I knew the protocol was badly broken) and I avoid
>> fiddling with. As such, it won't have change much since around FreeBSD7.
> and we haven’t had any issues with it for years, so you must have done something good
> 
> cheers,
> 	danny
> 
>>
>> rick
>>
>> cheers,
>>        danny
>>
>>> rick
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> (NetApp admin)
>>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:46, Daniel Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il<mailto:danny@cs.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Dec 2019, at 16:55, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca<mailto:rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Braniss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The server with the problems is running FreeBSD 11.1 stable, it was working fine for >several months,
>>>>> but after a software upgrade of our NetAPP server it’s reporting many lockd errors >and becomes catatonic,
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Dec 18 13:11:02 moo-09 kernel: nfs server fr-06:/web/www: lockd not responding
>>>>> Dec 18 13:11:45 moo-09 last message repeated 7 times
>>>>> Dec 18 13:12:55 moo-09 last message repeated 8 times
>>>>> Dec 18 13:13:10 moo-09 kernel: nfs server fr-06:/web/www: lockd is alive again
>>>>> Dec 18 13:13:10 moo-09 last message repeated 8 times
>>>>> Dec 18 13:13:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen queue >overflow: 194 already in queue awaiting acceptance (1 occurrences)
>>>>> Dec 18 13:14:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen queue >overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance (3957 occurrences)
>>>>> Dec 18 13:15:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen queue >overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance …
>>>> Seems like their software upgrade didn't improve handling of NLM RPCs?
>>>> Appears to be handling RPCs slowly and/or intermittently. Note that no one
>>>> tests it with IPv6, so at least make sure you are still using IPv4 for the mounts and
>>>> try and make sure IP broadcast works between client and Netapp. I think the NLM
>>>> and NSM (rpc.statd) still use IP broadcast sometimes.
>>>>
>>> we are ipv4 - we have our own class c :-)
>>>> Maybe the network guys can suggest more w.r.t. why, but as I've stated before,
>>>> the NLM is a fundamentally broken protocol which was never published by Sun,
>>>> so I suggest you avoid using it if at all possible.
>>> well, at the moment the ball is on NetAPP court, and switching to NFSv4 at the moment is out of the question, it’s
>>> a production server used by several thousand students.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - If the locks don't need to be seen by other clients, you can just use the "nolockd"
>>>> mount option.
>>>> or
>>>> - If locks need to be seen by other clients, try NFSv4 mounts. Netapp filers
>>>> should support NFSv4.1, which is a much better protocol that NFSv4.0.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with it, rick
>>> thanks
>>>       danny
>>>
>>>> …
>>>> any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>      danny
>>>>
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