From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 5 21:30:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC767D926CC for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neonpark.inter-sonic.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FDDB71B38 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Intersonic AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intersonic.se; s=INTERSONICSE; t=1499290212; bh=GeYLpuo2VkIYMF1DRXAk6WZsJIUiu0GF32RN08ae/W8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=uYD+k9XuvjY483frR1edz8UldVcjxceQmXvCq5gq5tpnrsUJIIixdRwIpsFDTr9BZ k3CmDNer+47ru6GcyAjW6xcPLs+RnAjuLxAl2FG5/akQF71KbeZKP1MLGMBePlCER9 aEZ55GzEAKRAITtdFPKyQraKn+Wnx9RYZa9XpzWU= Subject: Re: FreeBSD did it again (still) To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27b3c757-1f00-a033-03f6-303a82ab65f2@columbus.rr.com> <3ce31ee2-5e35-d31c-71ca-dc95ece2dd61@intersonic.se> <020431a6-1a7d-d80e-0725-585c21f3ef27@columbus.rr.com> From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB Message-ID: <563b14d5-ebfb-62b6-28ac-3ebbd663d067@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:30:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <020431a6-1a7d-d80e-0725-585c21f3ef27@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:30:15 -0000 On 2017-07-06 03:21, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 7/5/2017 4:31 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> On 2017-07-06 01:54, Baho Utot wrote: >>> Up graded an old laptop from 10.1 to 11.0-p10. I then checked out >>> the latest quarterly ports. I figured that FreeBSD would barf and I >>> was not disappointed. Built the ports with synth and then I installed >>> them, xorg promptly shit itself. >>> >>> So I typed pkg autoremove just for shits and giggles. Before the >>> upgrade pkg autoremove did nothing ( nothing to remove ) the latest >>> pkg wanted to remove all of Xorg and some other things but not remove >>> lumina. Figure that one out. >>> >>> Working on figuring this out. >>> >>> Can you tell me why FreeBSD doesn't need versioned ports again? I am >>> just looking for something that works, I don't need the last version >>> of xyz that just came off the press. >>> >>> Thinking I may need to leave FreeBSD and find something that is >>> stable/works. An upgrade from a recent version should not requir >>> days to weeks to get it to work. >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> Not sure what you are aiming at here but - just felt I had to comment. >> You are probably right that there must be cohersion between packages >> and system when using prebuilt binaries. >> >> My way of doing it is the opposite, everything is compiled from >> source, the classic *nix way. This way, FreeBSD has never let me down. >> >> I think the best approach if you have an older system where it takes >> ages to compile, you really need to follow a strict path using >> packages. On a more recent system, nothing beats source builds. >> >> There has been a lot of discussion over this matter recently, please >> understand that this is not RedHat or Ubuntu, the resources needed to >> keep up with building binaries are limited in comparison. If you need >> prebuilt packages, please just contribute to the work. >> >> Just my SEK 0.2 >> >> //per > > I built the ports from svn source using synth I did not use prebuilt > binaries. I did do it the classic *nix way. That was odd. But if you provide more detailed info I'm sure there is help on the list. I only use portmaster due to its ease of use, have no experience from synth. //per