From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 19:14:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A8916A447 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 19:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C0143D4C for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 19:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k41JElMW014641; Mon, 1 May 2006 12:14:47 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id k41JElIv014637; Mon, 1 May 2006 12:14:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 12:14:47 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Eric Anderson Message-ID: <20060501191447.GD4315@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <4447D2F7.1070408@centtech.com> <346a80220604232037mb6f98a0x5fab21622de5ce3c@mail.gmail.com> <444C51BA.3020905@centtech.com> <20060424131508.GB23163@pint.candc.home> <444CD48A.4060501@centtech.com> <444CE475.30104@centtech.com> <20060430231621.GA551@pint.candc.home> <44557F34.3020906@centtech.com> <20060501190645.GB4315@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <44565DD2.1020604@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44565DD2.1020604@centtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, Coleman Kane Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 19:14:51 -0000 --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Coleman Kane wrote: > >>>On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>>>Eric Anderson wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, tha= t=20 > >>>>broke some things and assumptions I was making. This patch has them= =20 > >>>>fixed, and I've tested it with all the different options: > >>>> > >>>>http://www.googlebit.com/freebsd/patches/rc_fancy.patch-9 > >>>> > >>>>It's missing the defaults/rc.conf diffs, but you should already know= =20 > >>>>those. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Eric > >>>> > >>>I have a new patch (to 7-CURRENT) of the "fancy_rc" updates. > >>> > >>>This allows the use of: > >>>rc_fancy=3D"YES" ---> Turns on fancy reporting (w/o color) > >>>rc_fancy_color=3D"YES" ---> Turns on fancy reporting (w/ color), nee= ds > >>> rc_fancy=3D"YES" > >>>rc_fancy_colour=3D"YES" ---> Same as above for you on the other side = of > >>> the pond. > >>>rc_fancy_verbose=3D"YES" --> Turn on more verbose activity messages. > >>> This will cause what appear to be "false > >>> positives", where an unused service is > >>> "OK" instead of "SKIP". > >>> > >>>You can also customize the colors, the widths of the message > >>>brackets (e.g. [ OK ] vs. [ OK ]), the screen width, and > >>>the contents of the message (OK versus GOOD versus BUENO). > >>> > >>>Also, we have the following message combinations: > >>>OK ---> Universal good message > >>>SKIP,SKIPPED ---> Two methods for conveying the same idea? > >>>ERROR,FAILED ---> Ditto above, for failure cases > >>> > >>>Should we just have 3 different messages, rather than 5 messages > >>>in 3 categories? > >>Yes, that's something that started with my first patch, and never got= =20 > >>ironed out. I think it should be: > >>OK > >>SKIPPED > >>FAILED > >>and possibly also: > >>ERROR > >> > >>The difference between FAILED and ERROR would be that FAILED means the= =20 > >>service did not start at all, and ERROR means it started but had some= =20 > >>kind of error response. > > > >FAILED vs ERROR seems confusing. I'd be inclined toward WARNING vs > >FAILED or ERROR. >=20 > True, however I still see a difference between FAILED and WARNING. For=20 > instance, as an example: a FAILED RAID is different than a RAID with a=20 > WARNING. For that level of detail, the ability to provide additional output seems like the appropriate solution. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. 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