From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:27:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C13316A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.pelleg.org (gw.pelleg.org [205.201.13.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F2E43FBF for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpelleg@cs.cmu.edu) Received: from lank.here (lank.wburn [192.168.3.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "gw.pelleg.org", Issuer "Dan Pelleg" (verified OK)) by gw.pelleg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCD5A4E; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by lank.here (Postfix, from userid 7675) id 0175576F; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:01 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16331.52805.200628.376535@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:01 -0500 To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <3FCBADA3.8070909@potentialtech.com> References: <20031126232537.24176.qmail@web13704.mail.yahoo.com> <20031126234313.GZ90881@submonkey.net> <3FC53E21.9020709@potentialtech.com> <3FCBADA3.8070909@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid From: Dan Pelleg cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for Linux users X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Pelleg List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:27:16 -0000 Bill Moran writes: > Dan Pelleg wrote: > > Bill Moran writes: > > > >>Ceri Davies wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 03:25:37PM -0800, bri an wrote: > >>> > >> > >>>>I am a Work-study at a University. I have allot of > >>>>staff using Redhat. I have been working on helping > >>>>people move to Freebsd. I have been using it for a two > >>>>months. I would love to help in anyway. I am not very > >>>>versed in Freebsd, But I know how to RTFM. I can be a > >>>>great tester to see what the document needs. > >>> Not to make any point in particular, just to use this opportunity to put in the archives some things in ports which linux people find it odd aren't installed out of the box: - as was already said, bash - gmake - random stuff that is generally in fileutils/textutils/sh-utils (note that GNATS has a new port "coreutils" rolling them all into one, not yet committed) - seq - vim - emacs I don't know if there's a meta-port that includes them all or not, but it probably wouldn't hurt to have one. Speaking of which, instant-workstation is seemingly another thing that would make linux users from most distros feel at home, albeit a bloated and crowded home. Also, linux compatibility comes in handy for the odd game, browser plugin, or non-ported utility (sometimes it's faster to just grab a binary from a linux system and run it). In case someone is actually reading this and writing docs, this is where a pointer to the linux compat chapter in the handbook should come (reminding readers about USER_LDT and linuxprocfs). Just looking at the ports tree, I realize there are several variants of linux_base (RH, debian, and gentoo). Meaning one can have distro wars fully contained in FreeBSD :)