From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 6 05:38:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD34106564A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5238FC20 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so3159384wib.13 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.216.137.97 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.137.97; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.216.137.97 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=amvandemore@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=amvandemore@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.137.97]) by 10.216.137.97 with SMTP id x75mr7614759wei.25.1331012298527 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:38:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AOupJmKeoxmmd82tP51Z7H2HEEN/Ov5IwOEzSI/K14o=; b=ma/WmHQ8PB01cWPdNZfzHrjMmsjKF0D/ud4aLXFEpt19W7ym9NGz8p81/T0QnBVlXZ 36LGa7kNkt78SN8qXokCyzLgnlSQeLYSgJKde7LVu5LZ3bi7fpt6NJ4P22BFAZLH6k3Y jOnLPnN0C22g2pO7vE9FnTZlN5z6euMzxxZpJTTOvupVzk3ERB7BTcfczQQA/tcy4NbZ nCI29gtZeqSLM+gRVaE5s/QPFyiT4PRii9WhS93T0LCluKVE4zmjspPIlsWYWgZjY6sE y1663laYZ+Xx413f0wgChcjyJtd/i0qoj4zCHcmAxYIn4UKP8pmFY769d5a5BkhhLz/4 F+lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.97 with SMTP id x75mr6112245wei.25.1331012298463; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.93.138 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:38:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F55A0EA.8000300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:38:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Brandon Falk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphical Terminal Environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 05:38:19 -0000 On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Brandon Falk wrote: > I'm actually talking about perhaps getting rid of X11 totally. It's > overkill for what I need. I use dwm right now and I basically want to > create a dwm that doesn't have the massive X11 backend. X11 is well > written, but it's getting outdated and quite large, especially if you only > need terminals and no graphics (and really, I just want to learn, I > understand that I'm 'reinventing the wheel'). > Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but doesn't vidcontrol+ tmux already do this? -- Adam Vande More