From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 10:58:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 815) id 5F9F016A4CF; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:58:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:58:22 +0000 From: Murray Stokely To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20040728105822.GD52195@hub.freebsd.org> References: <200407281011.i6SABwac090675@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040728105443.GA19031@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040728105443.GA19031@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:58:22 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:54:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I meant to ask a while ago, when I saw similar commits, but I postponed > it and then forgot to ask. When is it considered good style to remove > the frames from tables? Does the choise depend on the output format or > is there some other reason? frames never look good in print output. The stylesheets are braindead and there is no padding between the contents and the border. Even if that is manually added in the TeX processing stage, it still looks out of place because for print output you just want the line separating the column headers from the data -- anything else and the page looks too cluttered at best, and like a printed web page at worst. As for HTML output, I don't feel too strongly either way. I don't think with or without frames makes too much of a difference. If someone thinks that some table in the HTML output looks a lot better with frames, then we can come up with an entity or stylesheet change, or parameter use to use framed tables in HTML output and non-framed in print output. - Murray