From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Aug 25 19:48:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C19BC6873 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB62113A; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7B606E0082; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u7PJmLAF033943; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id u7PJmKEk032882; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:20 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard , Supervision , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Linuxisms in s6 Message-ID: <20160825194820.GI92256@e-new.0x20.net> References: <37d5159b-4957-42f8-2252-fa53d7446bb6@NTLWorld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:11:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:48:25 -0000 --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:46:10AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 24 August 2016 at 21:53, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > wrote: > > http://adrianchadd.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/freebsd-on-tiny-system-whats-= missing.html?showComment=3D1471236502051#c1305086913155850955 > > , Adrian Chadd: > > > >> We're using s6 at work, and it works out mostly ok. Mostly once you get > >> around the linuxisms, and the lack of sensible time code in it (its > >> calculations for daemon run duration is based on system time, not wall > >> clock, so if your box boots jan 1, 1970 then gets NTP, things are.. > >> hilarious), and some of the arcane bits to get logging working right. > >> > > What are these Linuxisms in s6? s6-linux-utils and s6-linux-init have > > Linuxisms, obviously. But what Linuxisms does s6 have? >=20 > We just had a bunch of fun trying to get it to build right, and the > uptime stuff really threw us. >=20 > It's fine though, I found that s6 may start growing an IPC mechanism > so we could possibly do a launchd/jobd style service later (ie to run > things upon event changes, like ifup, ifdown, ifcreate, ifdestroy, > arbitrary messages, etc) so I may try incorporating it again. :) >=20 Can't this be done with devd?=20 --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJXv0uDXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tuBAH/31yXT1XuIS+ZLS/5o5w1OdP w+UYHz6+6BaaLNyp5YlMR8hodeXkzUr0uiaDLJUijKuPYCHt2DfhWs8lDyeG/pub 16MFffeSetsvmSwvo+/grONzEHU+BSIuvgvF3F/4aZWvheW31GCAXNqxbQPrbYqf K2DVeFgh1Kb8vZsfFjTCPHm7rcYJ71NH+smXZ3Y91KFHWRc3vIYH5R/a3/AUKmbw TVtXDT7Fv8f2EJYsNBFa1Jcb+Nlg0GZvkqyUKPUylMUrwqennyq1H5SH3dlIl3x1 THQ/E0Uckuh6Ed5cEa73Pzepf8lIZRwXvO2l442PMqisixbfAbUgDwpZbmU6BDs= =KXRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj--