From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 31 17:54:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78461EF3; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C208E1904; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id y1so3634085lam.8 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:54:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uG2NfkPmBUU2dtXxlmOvMnN4rBJ8WI+suh+llDqSGe0=; b=brytn/v5zZrxDzOZiQ32FH609kyl6BlcdTjEuK+M/yE+UjJ5aH/065qOVKjOzMtMLk xGEJGRIvpZlJUvySxooyJ6DKuHOzRnsD9oSdttpDymPAZp4mPUjePyP4DTVgQ5FHYSAB xRc9c2/ljtcFS0cJhEsmlplKA7fe0uS/lBgi4pvLfB0ljKCho6tdpBtZFBrYmmsD2YC4 wk+h23xaADi2bE21v0hiydp3DN3n2qZqk27kY5KBPI6AwFBWvCKAu9hr01wPI5HjErY1 1VLS5zAqKHyH8kSUllHFFIR9fON6+7ZpXRuXDXt4xpLxFb8AgPqgIw+XMI8Zd/GXvXR9 jDqA== X-Received: by 10.152.236.72 with SMTP id us8mr14493299lac.11.1391190877881; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bn5sm10993313lbc.10.2014.01.31.09.54.36 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:54:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52EBE35C.6090905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:54:36 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freddie Cash , Polytropon Subject: Re: UFS(2) portable driver for other OS References: <20140131150601.53ee40f4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Filesystems , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , CeDeROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:54:40 -0000 31.01.2014 19:20, Freddie Cash написав(ла): > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote: >>> Hello :-) >>> >>> Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly >>> improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access >>> and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode. >> >> The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is >> usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file >> names, you need the 16 bit version. This is commonly considered >> the "typical solution" for the problem you're describing, even >> though it doesn't really look any attractive because, as I >> said, it's the _lowest_ common denominator where "lowest" is >> determined by the inability of "Windows" products to be >> willing to accept anything that isn't made, approved, certified >> and sold by MICROS~1. :-) > > > There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the > FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices. FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX > all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version for > Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).​​ Waaaaait. This doesn't mean FreeBSD can mount UDF for read/write, doesn't it? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.