From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 7 12:11:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B6616A4CE for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4303143D3F for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@evilpete.dyndns.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98142A8E3 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624FE29E for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i47JBFDV093145; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i47JBErG093144; Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:11:14 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <0f4601c432b8$a251fd30$471b3dd4@dual> <11c701c43351$0382fc60$471b3dd4@dual> <409B1BB8.4010308@npgcable.com> In-Reply-To: <409B1BB8.4010308@npgcable.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200405071211.14394.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: Installing a new system.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 19:11:17 -0000 On Thursday 06 May 2004 10:16 pm, Joe Fenton wrote: > Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > >>>When thing go as planned I'm getting my dual opteron system this > >>> week. So it is time to start planning.... > >>> > >>>What I'm wanting to dump on it: > >>> FBSD AMD64 > >>> FBSD i386 > >>> Win2K i386 > >>> Win2k x86_???? Beta > >>>perhaps > >>> linux-amd64 > >>>(note it has a 200Gb disk) > >>> > >>>What bootmanager should I use. > > > >Anybody tried LILO for these kinds of excercises?? > > I have Windows XP Pro on drive 0, partition 0, XP64 on drive 0, > partition 1, and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 x86-64 on drive 1. > > I have GRUB set to boot them, but remember to go into the BIOS > and set the Windows drive to LBA mode (if it's on AUTO) or GRUB > won't boot Windows. If you tell GRUB to boot Windows and it just > sits there, that's probably the problem. > > The FreeBSD booter didn't have this trouble. Seems to be a > limitation in GRUB. I haven't tried LILO. It has been ages since I've messed with grub, but there is one thing that I'd like to make sure is well understood. With FreeBSD on amd64, there is a very strong symbiotic relationship between loader and the kernel. A lot more work is done in loader on amd64 than is done on i386. There is no chance that grub etc will be able to boot an amd64 kernel directly. Of course, if grub boots the loader, then it should be ok. But you can't get loader out of the loop. This might not be directly relevant to the discussion here, but I wanted to mention it while I thought of it. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5