From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 1 15:48:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0D216A469 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antik@bsd.ee) Received: from smtp-gw1.starman.ee (smtp-out3.starman.ee [85.253.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52C213C46A for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antik@bsd.ee) Received: from mx1.starman.ee (mx1.starman.ee [62.65.192.16]) by smtp-gw1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710F5A21998 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:48:18 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pc65.host1.ida.starman.ee [62.65.240.65]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF0E3F4090 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:48:17 +0200 (EET) From: Andrei Kolu To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:48:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200712011015.58979.antik@bsd.ee> <4751248C.4040500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4751248C.4040500@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712011748.17573.antik@bsd.ee> Subject: Re: Xorg meta ports bloated dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:48:20 -0000 Saturday 01 December 2007 11:08:28 kirjutas Yuri Pankov: > Andrei Kolu wrote: > > Saturday 01 December 2007 05:20:40 kirjutas dexterclarke@safe-mail.net: > >> I've just been helping somebody through an installation of > >> 6.2-RELEASE and we've noticed the excessive dependencies of > >> the xorg meta ports. > >> > >> xorg-server 1.4, for example, depends on: > >> > >> dbus-1.0.2_2, dbus-glib-0.74, glib-2.14.2, gnome_subr-1.0, > >> hal-0.5.8.20070909 and even strange things like cdrtools-2.01_6. > >> > >> xorg-server 1.2 (the one distributed with the 6.2-RELEASE CD) > >> doesn't have these dependencies. > >> > >> Putting it bluntly: why is this crap being dragged in? Neither > >> of us use GNOME or anything that might require dbus. I can't see > >> why xorg-server could possibly need any of the above? > >> > >> Anxiously awaiting a flaming argument. > > > > And why xorg should include ugly fonts like adobe* an type1*? > > Because it IS a *META* port and should install everything that is part > of xorg distribution? You are free to install the ports that you need, > use WITHOUT_HAL for xorg-server, etc. And there are many people who > think that ttf fonts are ugly, and bitmap and type1 fonts are more > readable. > I'd like to see choices in metaport- ncurses based menus with packages we really need. It is impossible to install Xorg without metaport (anyone have done that at all?)- 300+ separate ports IIRC. After removing unnecessary ports (fonts FE) and later you may try to upgrade Xorg to newer version then package dependency would be broken... Or how can I tell metaport how to NOT INSTALL some crap I don't need. Andrei