From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 23 17:41:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04644 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04639 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA00991; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:10:32 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA05309; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:10:27 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980724101026.K716@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:10:26 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brian Behlendorf , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: someone should be starting an archive of these... References: <19980722212025.20301.qmail@hyperreal.org> <19980722212025.20301.qmail@hyperreal.org> <19980724093021.J716@freebie.lemis.com> <19980724003043.22764.qmail@hyperreal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980724003043.22764.qmail@hyperreal.org>; from Brian Behlendorf on Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 05:04:14PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 23 July 1998 at 17:04:14 -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > At 09:30 AM 7/24/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 22 July 1998 at 14:19:29 -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote: >>> http://www.gcn.com/gcn/1998/July13/cov2.htm >>> >>> What happens when you install an NT network on a navy ship. >> >> Well, the report was pretty weak. As far as I can tell, the real >> problem was bad programming (somebody divided by 0 and was surprised >> at the result). So was the reporter, who didn't understand the >> problem (and made false claims that he could have checked up on). >> >> Not one against Microsoft this time. > > Of course it is. As the article said, a $2.95 calculator does not become > inoperable when you attempt to divide a number by zero Well, it causes an error condition (and not, as the reporter claimed, a result of 0). > - yet a whole ship was more or less incapacitated (it had to be > *towed* to port!) Claims were made to that effect. I personally think that a problem of that magnitude would have become known earlier. > for days because of this. > > There shouldn't be *anything* that can be typed into the > system that could have such an effect, intentional or not! Sure, but is that an OS problem? GIGO: write bad software for FreeBSD and it'll run badly too. I think Microsoft's "operating systems" stink. But we've got to remember that applications aren't just operating systems, and this one just doesn't look like an OS problem. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message