From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Feb 16 19:47:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D413F546B5B for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DgBMc1Mryz3Gjw for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id i23so12264739ejg.10 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7OtHdVH9Sx7hDCAEHeIaL6ZxkrIeQ5f2xlKYEiIOwnk=; b=k/7Z3+HZXz7r2rZbBVzqTXqp9n85frd4Jz+3Hqx5L5ZPTf0qxhZ6qt1tUI/MY90gw6 Bw1htNxre9n+SyCMZ2VrmT86FAkiz3/wORYlfz6hq+N0v1vzOvqjPGYQVImLybmZobQC AwRJnOpFYsZKejk4n5Rq0pAb6dOMhAhXmNFnbSVe/jLOSX5fxAaxo17d4snRpSPrgZyF JsHiDXsKfHrLa4JE7jTaI8IIhfuW+YNOrb+5lEZSiLFuvgPpybEtL134xg6HCoPCTqbY SaTj4Mj787kfop2NQ54X6++cnoh7gE+BmVEpOxL5n5CXKmaT0PW/KktLJGrMmqtVZGNi Z/0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7OtHdVH9Sx7hDCAEHeIaL6ZxkrIeQ5f2xlKYEiIOwnk=; b=uegISIn25mH3LmgVvGXeai+IRhc4lWB9jIhwsSA+922CQD0xAlKEH+aYsnXie/0UWX W1EExHwmcgpZSZ0SzvMo/WwSOlKCaKwOhhNOWR1oKvROQH/CRwFUARgyLyAM10Yy8MEh wyUpGPe/alZex9eG/iHgjSahLWObPOgpNo1J08+ycZtbtSByOq99XbLUXW3zc8yMChM9 fdWXy5brXYdTYfYmFKmRc8Fm7xZChpiOU1j6A7de+vSxiMuTpt/v0wex1bqS6BqwJRdc SZs8vbm/iLbtSaQIRy4FhaGW0y0IKKKqVnaP2LJOUVSMpox81mxaNyzkKdzvkhNQSTYD UIYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5331GmQGDp78NddnK2Rxwp6e8ezWC3dyWnsesgqA/7dhCXpQMtMD vwcI5a5Vvfj56xYe5g7uxniTjnBnatMGpajxqSXiinHHXotLew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzi+xpdvsM4E7ksIEZzfHLgoL1gf5nHJNdMZEbts9BPlXUgi+X4/tnDQZPjspPb0m+7cCB8XW+Q89n4j0ZTD8U= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:210e:: with SMTP id qn14mr22779257ejb.237.1613504854016; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210216134229.773fde3d@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: From: Waitman Gobble Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptops To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DgBMc1Mryz3Gjw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=k/7Z3+HZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gobblewa@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gobblewa@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62f:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62f:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:47:40 -0000 On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:30 PM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 17/2/21 3:00 am, Pete Wright wrote: > > > > > > On 2/16/21 10:42 AM, LuMiWa via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> I did search FreeBSD Wiki/laptops but I didn't find the answer. I like > >> to buy Thinkpad W541 or W550s (prefer W541) but I am not sure if will > >> work on FreeBSD. I want it to connect external monitor which going > >> through Nvidia graphics card which Optimus driver supposed it works on > >> FreeBSD 13. I found that installation works on W520 and 530. > > I have a different Thinkpad with Optimus graphics - a P43s. It mostly > > works, but have been pretty underwhelmed by the hybrid graphics of > > Optimus systems. Not just with FreeBSD, but from what I gather its > > suboptimal on Linux as well. > > > > I have been running UbuntuMATE Linux on two computers with nVIDIA > Optimus, for several years, now, without any problems. > > One of those, the first, upon which I got it working, is an Acer Aspire > V3-772G, which has an Intel Haskell i7 CPU, and nVIDIA Optimus. > > I think that I bought the computer in 2013, from memory, and it took me > 18 months to get it working with a non-MS operating system. Only two > non-MS operating systems, had drivers for the CPU; dragonflyBSD and > Ubuntu Linux, and, only Ubuntu Linux had the dirver for the nVIDIA > Optimus system. Up until then, I had been using Debian Linux, but, had > got fed up with it, had looked at the versions of BSD, and was told that > there was no way that BSD would be supporting nVIDIA graphics, so, I > switched to Ubuntu Linux, and, it has worked well enough with the graphics. > > I am running external monitors on both laptops, at 1920x1080 resolution, > without any problems. > > Oh, and, the other laptop, is an Acer Aspire 5750G. > > I am currently running UbuntuMATE 20.10 on both systems, and, up until > the last couple of weeks, was running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x LTS on the > V3-772G; 16.04 is due to come to EOL in a couple of months, so I thought > I should get used to using the inferior version, before then. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > (UTC+0800) > .............. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I use a W530 which is a little older than the W541 but looks to me like it has similar specs. It works if you set GPU to Nvidia only in BIOS, and probably Intel only, but Opitmus (enables GPU hot-switching I guess?) doesn't boot on mine. I think somebody mentioned a solution to that earlier in the thread. Downside to using Nvidia is short battery time without AC power. -- Waitman Gobble