From owner-freebsd-current Fri Feb 28 13: 6:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBE837B401 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170AA43FBD for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1SL6T3Y028329; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:06:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:06:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20030228.140613.25161750.imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any ideas why we can't even boot a i386 ? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <54906.1046466049@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20030228.135726.11052754.imp@bsdimp.com> <54906.1046466049@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <54906.1046466049@critter.freebsd.dk> "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: : In message <20030228.135726.11052754.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: : >In message: <98262.1046446934@critter.freebsd.dk> : > "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: : >: In message , John Baldwin writes: : >: : >: >I personally think that we should not support the 80386 in 5.x. : >: >However when that has been brought up before there were a lot of : >: >theoretical objections. : >: : >: Well, unless somebody actually manages to put a -current on an i386 : >: and run the tests I suggested in a couple of weeks, then I think : >: those theoretical objections stand very weakly in the light of : >: proven reality :-) : > : >Two weeks notice is too short to put something to the sword. : : I'm not suggesting we should. Just making sure. We have some a few embedded systems coming back from the field soon and I plan on trying some tests on them (they are amd 386, so might not be good for you). Also, 386-core based chips are still in production (or have been in the last year). It has only been very recently that the embedded chips have transitioned to 486. Calling them, as others have, 10 years obsolete is a bit of an overstatement... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message