From nobody Tue May 19 11:09:18 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gKX4M3CP5z6f1xx for ; Tue, 19 May 2026 11:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net) Received: from smtp-out.smokepit.net (smtp-out.smokepit.net [65.109.7.147]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp-out.smokepit.net", Issuer "E7" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gKX4L3yNFz3H2Y for ; Tue, 19 May 2026 11:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smokepit.net header.s=loke header.b=ns+Fl+ST; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=smokepit.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net designates 65.109.7.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lysfjord.daniel@smokepit.net Received: from 50d44339.bb.online.no ([80.212.67.57] helo=smokepit.net) by smtp-out.smokepit.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wPIK9-000000007sp-2fEk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 May 2026 11:09:20 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smokepit.net; s=loke; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=3TbYpHuBaTzhePK3W7FPyEDhdPUIa4wxGUDQ5ZxVAE4=; b=ns+Fl+ST/mmglq+M7KOi2L4iCL XGSMSBz1yErPyEDFwHAaeB75PogclqGFzPodlPRs/zn900lDFMW57MXGcMy5MwxF4fY217usj2o4e DDC7/mPJyyS/fLBtmMVUphdB1+MzmdWQLsR9CJwe9aEuwhZb9swMlmTIRCDDE9zt0XEQ=; Received: from trd-fw-ext.norbit.com ([213.236.200.10] helo=[10.101.23.31]) by smokepit.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.99.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1wPIK7-00000000GTT-0DKp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 May 2026 13:09:19 +0200 Message-ID: <19cabdd0-d3f0-41a8-bdf2-f891a411ed70@smokepit.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 13:09:18 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Unable to boot after update from within auto-admin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5f88b5f5e25c7fca7c5f3af2e74ab070@smokepit.net> <74dfc07e-0433-425f-b1d4-c02254eb06ce@palaceofretention.ca> <43a6e48acea1ba3b8ae57d6bb2e8d945@smokepit.net> Content-Language: en-US, nb-NO From: Daniel Lysfjord In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[smokepit.net,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smokepit.net:s=loke]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:65.109.7.147]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:65.109.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smokepit.net:+] X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gKX4L3yNFz3H2Y On 2026-05-19 09:51, Mathias M. wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 08:20:26PM +0200, Daniel Lysfjord wrote: >> On 2026-05-18 19:45, linuxblood wrote: >>> On Monday, May 18th, 2026 at 1:15 PM, Mathias M. >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 03:29:31PM +0000, linuxblood wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't be the only one out there using "desktop-installer" and then >>>>> receiving desktop notifications for updates being available via >>>>> "auto-admin." I guess there's not enough people using >>>>> "desktop-installer" noticing this and complaining to upstream about >>>>> it. >>>> >>>> You might very well be the only one using it. At least I've never saw >>>> any need to use something like that, nor have I met anyone that did. >>>> Because installing a window manager or desktop environment is as >>>> simple as `pkg install` and then pay attention to what the pkg post >>>> install messages are saying. As with any other program. >>> >>> I may as well be the only one who has used it. ^_^ Actually, I've read >>> about a small trickle of users here and there scattered across the web >>> who have `claimed` to have used it. There are also html/video tutorials >>> out there which mention it. I don't remember the exact links as I made >>> the initial mistake of rushing through installation the first time >>> without spending time with it and doing it correctly. >>> >>> Live and learn, I won't make this mistake again in future installs. :) >> >> It's even promoted as a good thing(tm), and slanted for adoption into the >> installer itself[0] >> >> 0: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/monthly-updates/2025-06.md#kde-desktop-installer-option > > I don't see anything about the 'desktop-installer' package. > This update seems to be about adding a new section to `bsdinstall(8)` to > enable using that tool to install the desktop environment. > > But anyhow, I don't see why one would install anything WM/DE that way. > > The best DE is useless if one doesn't know > > a) how to install packages > > and > > b) read and understand the post install message > > And if anyone lacks those two skills, that person is not going to have a > great experience using FreeBSD. > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > Regards, > Mathias > My bad, the wording caused me to guess it was utilizing the same mechanism.. [0] is a completely different beast. 0: https://www.freebsd.org/status/report-2026-01-2026-03/#_desktop_script_for_bsdinstall