From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 9:39:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spork.cs.unm.edu (mail.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4427937BAF2; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colinj@unm.edu) Received: from onion.cs.unm.edu ([198.59.151.178] helo=unm.edu) by spork.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12hb0G-000587-00; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:37:32 -0600 Message-ID: <38FC8F7A.9DDE8F40@unm.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:38:18 -0600 From: Colin Eric Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C J Michaels Cc: Southwell , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 project in the works. Take a look at: http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. C J Michaels wrote: > > My understanding of IEEE 1394 is that it is patented by Apple and anyone > who wishes to use it has to pay a royalty to Apple. Maybe I misunderstood > and this only applies to hardware manufacturers. > > -- > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Southwell > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:04 PM > To: Mike Smith > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: IEEE 1394 support > > Hi > > I posted a query relating to Firewire support and Mike came back with the > awful news that he felt the field was so laced with patents that it was > not > worth trying.. > I am quite interested in seeing if a way round the problems can be found - > does anyone have any pointers. > > What I felt would be useful would be to try to support either the Texas > Instruments IEEE 1394 OCHI compliant controller or some of the other cards > that are available. (I have an on board TI chip). Does anyone have a link > to > some information that can identify the patent problems Mike referred to? > > Initially I would like to be able to get a "simple" capture program that > would generate either AVI Type 1 or Type 2 files from a camcorder. > > Are the problems as insurmountable as Mike seems to feel they are? > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Smith" > To: "Southwell" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > > > > Is any one working on firewire (IEEE 1394) support for camcorders? > > > > No; the field is laced with patents which prevent any really useful work > > being done. You might as well ignore firewire for the time being. -- Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ ``...what you really wanted to ask was if the Universe is indeed ludicrous. But that is a question each must answer for himself.'' -Stanislaw Lem "King Globare and the Sages" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message